Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably.
Joel Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM
Unfortunately it's not the kind of question I can answer while racing to bed, other than to say, "substance" isn't the word I'd use, since it has material connotations "spiritual" precludes. Hence your philosophy books referencing "matter" the spiritual is not material, which is why the serious answers you're getting from materialists basically boil down to "no. " There's a conceit that says anything that exists is material, but that's far from given, and there's a great deal of evidence (such as this discussion) to the contrary. But any more will have to wait until at least tomorrow or the next day; I have to leave for work again in 7.5 hours.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe?
14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM
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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness.
14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
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aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons?
14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM
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But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything.
14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM
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i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul"
14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM
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Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul"
14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM
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I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things
14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM
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Rum.
14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM
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YES! *NM*
16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM
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How are we not married? *NM*
19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM
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Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably.
15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM
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The material universe precludes a purely natural cause.
18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM
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One little correction
20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM
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That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists.
07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM
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