Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press...
Legolas Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM
Look I don't think it was a great article but he was hardly note worthy in it's mediocrity. We can pretend like the ridicule has solely about the quality of the article but why do pretend?
If this was meant to be an exhaustive debate on the issue then I agree it was poor. If on the other hand it was about the movie and the high points of the debate were mentioned then I think the only thing silly is the response to it.
If this was meant to be an exhaustive debate on the issue then I agree it was poor. If on the other hand it was about the movie and the high points of the debate were mentioned then I think the only thing silly is the response to it.
But personally I do expect a journalist for a mainstream newspaper to do a better job describing the issue than your average 10-year old. Even if the main part of the article is about something else. If you're not capable or can't be bothered to do the effort to discuss the issue properly, it's rather wiser not to discuss it at all. And you still don't seem to get it: the ridicule IS solely about the quality of the article. I strongly doubt the author is actually a creationist. Entophile's post seemed to focus on the part about no evidence for evolution, yes, but my and Craig post were about how, as he put it, "both sides of the argument were represented so insultingly poorly".
And as for the 8000 lightyears argument, I have to disagree with Craig, I do think astronomy is relevant in the discussion. But the way that argument is presented is idiotic. If creationists actually believed that there were objects 8000 lightyears away whose light is reaching the earth only now, they wouldn't be creationists to begin with.
On the other side of the discussion, the stupidest part is the "allegory" argument, as the whole point of creationism is that those people *don't* think Genesis is an allegory. The allegory is not an argument for creationism, it's an argument to reconcile the Bible with evolution.
So was the article noteworthy in its mediocrity, well, I don't often see journalism this shoddy in a serious newspaper, no. And since somebody linked to it, I gave my honest opinion about it, as did Craig.
I can't even believe this.
13/09/2009 07:40:02 PM
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Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place.
13/09/2009 07:43:15 PM
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Re: Take a deep breath, close your eyes and go to your happy place.
13/09/2009 10:28:42 PM
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That is one amazingly stupid article...
13/09/2009 08:04:47 PM
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The author used the phrase "proven theories." Ergo, their argument is invalid. *NM*
14/09/2009 01:11:51 AM
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seriously. there's no such thing as a truly proven theory
14/09/2009 01:52:30 AM
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Re: definition of "theory"
14/09/2009 04:49:13 AM
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I can't really tell
14/09/2009 08:14:14 PM
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I think you are getting workedup over nothing
14/09/2009 09:57:22 PM
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That's... not exactly it.
14/09/2009 10:33:02 PM
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not that is exactly it
14/09/2009 11:10:52 PM
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No, Craig is quite right.
14/09/2009 11:21:11 PM
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No you just happen to wrong with him
15/09/2009 01:14:16 AM
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Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press...
15/09/2009 10:51:46 AM
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Re: Well, maybe this has to do with your low opinion of the British press...
15/09/2009 05:32:51 PM
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'Fraid not.
14/09/2009 11:24:00 PM
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It's not, it's supposed to be relatively decent - mainstream conservative newspaper. *NM*
14/09/2009 11:28:44 PM
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Re: 'Fraid not.
15/09/2009 01:21:14 AM
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15/09/2009 02:14:37 AM
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completely aside from this argument you guys have here...
15/09/2009 05:02:21 AM
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Interrupter!
15/09/2009 06:11:40 AM
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Re: Interrupter!
15/09/2009 06:54:56 AM
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One brain C4, coming up...
15/09/2009 12:00:26 PM
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The age of the universe is an important point in the creationist argument
15/09/2009 05:53:41 PM
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Exactly. So it was in the wrong column.
15/09/2009 07:58:15 PM
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what I think has been lost in the debate is it looks like it will be a good movie
15/09/2009 08:14:04 PM
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Um.
14/09/2009 11:28:28 PM
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LOL
15/09/2009 09:29:16 PM
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Really? Because this was a rather atypical debate, honestly.
15/09/2009 09:43:13 PM
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Well, I can pretend if you want me to
15/09/2009 10:07:59 PM
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I happen to find it all extremely interesting
15/09/2009 10:23:19 PM
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There are some places you can go that discuss the creationist ideas
15/09/2009 10:58:25 PM
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