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I understand, but what's really sad is it's hard to be sure WHICH GOP policy she meant. Joel Send a noteboard - 10/11/2010 10:03:22 PM
Aisha asked why we don't like her, and I listed off several statements and actions we find offensive, including:

She said of Republicans “They’ll take food out of the mouths of children in order to give tax cuts to the wealthiest.”, which in case your wondering, yes most of us right-wingers do tend to dislike people who accuse of us starving children.

So yeah, I could go on and on, you might not agree with me, but as for why we hate her, that would be some of the reasons


Realistically, this would be like me saying "Agree or disagree with the accusation, many liberals dislike being accused of being un-patriotic, and are offended by people who make such claims" it doesn't really require me to prove libs are or aren't patriotic. So, if someone on the right has posted "Why do liberals hate Sean Hannity?" and I posted that as a reason with some attached quote of him saying that, its not necessary for anyone to come by and prove libs really are patriotic or not, it only matters that such a comment might tick people off, true or false.

My bet is she was talking about the Dems failed attempt to extend SCHIP under Bush, but I can't read the womans mind. MY point was that the charge is made precisely because it IS applicable to various GOP policies going back at least thirty years. Hell, these are the people that think you get unemployed starving people off the street with a cash drop at the nearest mansion.

So, yes, I conceded YOUR point; yes, I understand the charge is offensive whether it's true or not, but whether it's true or not has a whole LOT to do with who's at fault there. I'm not making an apples to apples comparison, let me be clear, but most murderers object to being characterized as such in front of the jury; how much sympathy do you think their anger at an accurate charge earns them? Once again we're back to the Stevenson line. Blaming the prosecution for making ones crimes public is a poor defense. The anger is as understandable as it is unjustified. It reminds me of when Ws people accused Gore of trying to scare seniors with claims Bush would try to privatize Social Security (precisely what he DID try his first year in office, campaign denials aside): Dems don't have to scare seniors; the GOP platform does the job just fine unassisted. Then they promise seniors to cut all entitlements (nothing but waste, y'know) in one breath while in the next promising not to let the evil Dems touch their Medicare (God bless the GOP for giving us Medicare, eh?)
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Misogyny? Really? - 08/11/2010 08:18:41 PM 631 Views
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I understand, but what's really sad is it's hard to be sure WHICH GOP policy she meant. - 10/11/2010 10:03:22 PM 938 Views
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I can see Russia from my house? *NM* - 09/11/2010 12:15:40 AM 309 Views
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You could probably talk directly to me... - 09/11/2010 03:33:32 PM 634 Views
That's true - 10/11/2010 08:24:33 AM 649 Views
Did she actually say that? - 09/11/2010 03:31:50 PM 659 Views
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it doesn't matter what she says people need to believe she is stupid so they find proof even - 09/11/2010 04:36:28 PM 812 Views
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True. - 10/11/2010 09:36:59 PM 729 Views
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Whaaaaaaaa? Where have you BEEN? *NM* - 09/11/2010 06:44:04 PM 229 Views
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great job proving his point - 09/11/2010 04:23:02 PM 592 Views
Re: Why do conservatives hate Nancy Pelosi? - 09/11/2010 02:21:28 PM 715 Views
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Wow, what qualifies as far to the left in Sweden? - 13/11/2010 01:52:40 AM 590 Views
Leftist anarchist. - 15/11/2010 05:50:10 PM 856 Views
Yes, that would fit, thanks - 16/11/2010 01:29:35 AM 621 Views

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