Spain doesn't have to deal with Fourteenth Amendments Equal Protection Clause.
Joel Send a noteboard - 10/11/2010 12:25:05 PM
Nor the Fourth Amendments protections against unreasonable searches (so you need a valid pretext for snooping around someones sex life, though admittedly this can be a hard sell for many conservatives.
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Precisely; as long he's consistent I can respect his position whether or not I agree with it (conveniently, I do agree on these issues, but that has zero bearing on doctrine). What's frustrating is when good Catholic friends fall back on canon law to oppose abortion but completely ignore doctrine when defending capital punishment. There's nothing wrong, in principle, with cherry picking which parts of Catholic doctrine you accept; there's even a word for it: Protestantism.
Applying the same rule when it suits you and then ignoring it when it doesn't though is just basic hypocrisy, IMHO, and I believe most Christian denominations are pretty clear that's unacceptable. 
Yeah, I seem to recall hearing something about how Pope Benedict gets annoyed at you US Catholics for precisely that reason.
Yet it often seems to me that US Catholics do a better job than most at balancing conflicting obligations there. Bottom line is Pope Benedict has as much right as anyone to his opinion, though the Spanish government has an equal right to dismiss it. Famous people are still people.
)And, IIRC, this Pope, like his predecessor, is opposed to capital punishment.
Precisely; as long he's consistent I can respect his position whether or not I agree with it (conveniently, I do agree on these issues, but that has zero bearing on doctrine). What's frustrating is when good Catholic friends fall back on canon law to oppose abortion but completely ignore doctrine when defending capital punishment. There's nothing wrong, in principle, with cherry picking which parts of Catholic doctrine you accept; there's even a word for it: Protestantism.
Applying the same rule when it suits you and then ignoring it when it doesn't though is just basic hypocrisy, IMHO, and I believe most Christian denominations are pretty clear that's unacceptable. 
But, strangely, I have yet to have a visit from the Inquisition ordering me to adjust my beliefs to align with that of the popes. Too bad, because I'd love to get some autographs.
Yeah, I seem to recall hearing something about how Pope Benedict gets annoyed at you US Catholics for precisely that reason.
Yet it often seems to me that US Catholics do a better job than most at balancing conflicting obligations there. Bottom line is Pope Benedict has as much right as anyone to his opinion, though the Spanish government has an equal right to dismiss it. Famous people are still people.
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Pope criticises gay marriage and abortion at cathedral consecration in Spain
- 07/11/2010 08:18:06 PM
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Can't wait to see what he says about sanctity of life next time he's in TX....
- 07/11/2010 08:51:41 PM
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You know, next time you tell people to not reopen certain debates...
- 07/11/2010 09:28:21 PM
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Does Spain distinguish between secular and sacramental marriage?
- 08/11/2010 01:10:47 AM
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I would assume so, but can't say for sure.
- 08/11/2010 10:27:01 AM
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Well, that's the out then.
- 08/11/2010 11:00:14 PM
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I'm more looking forward to how the Texans affirm their support for the institution like Spain
- 09/11/2010 11:36:16 PM
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The Catholic Church as a whole is opposed to capital punishment, and is fairly vocal about it.
- 09/11/2010 11:55:18 PM
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But that's personal issues of the clergy and whatnot involved. It's not doctrine
- 13/11/2010 02:20:38 AM
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Spain doesn't have to deal with Fourteenth Amendments Equal Protection Clause.
- 10/11/2010 12:25:05 PM
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Re: Spain doesn't have to deal with Fourteenth Amendments Equal Protection Clause.
- 13/11/2010 02:25:01 AM
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Now that is the way to protest against the Pope. I wish people had thought of that here. *NM*
- 07/11/2010 09:02:51 PM
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The girl on girl kissing? Hell, yeah.
- 07/11/2010 09:23:17 PM
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you must have the Ugly lesbian Club in your area
- 07/11/2010 09:28:02 PM
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- 07/11/2010 09:28:02 PM
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Re: you must have the Ugly lesbian Club in your area
- 07/11/2010 10:05:58 PM
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- 07/11/2010 10:05:58 PM
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she's lesbian.
- 07/11/2010 10:32:37 PM
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Re: she's lesbian.
- 08/11/2010 01:14:32 AM
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lol sorry. I wasn't trying to come off all offended or like I was trying to spoil your joke
- 08/11/2010 01:26:54 AM
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- 08/11/2010 01:26:54 AM
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Referring to the 1930s and then talking of re-evangelization is a rather painful gaffe, I must say.
- 07/11/2010 09:13:19 PM
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dang. how big and fancy is this cathedral going to be? *NM*
- 07/11/2010 09:28:44 PM
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Huge, but mostly it's just been built very slowly for financial reasons.
- 08/11/2010 10:23:32 AM
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Uh yeah because Franco was worse than the communists....
- 08/11/2010 03:43:55 AM
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- 08/11/2010 03:43:55 AM
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Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
- 08/11/2010 10:17:10 AM
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Re: Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
- 08/11/2010 03:31:45 PM
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Re: Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
- 08/11/2010 10:28:01 PM
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Re: Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
- 09/11/2010 10:24:38 AM
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Ah, classic communist logic.
- 09/11/2010 08:17:48 PM
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I wouldn't expect anything less of him. *NM*
- 08/11/2010 02:28:36 AM
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Yeah, wouldn't it be hilariously awesome if he was, like, "Dudes, gay marriage ain't so bad." *NM*
- 08/11/2010 02:58:48 AM
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Again: The Pope doesn't oppress anyone.
- 08/11/2010 03:40:19 AM
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Awesome, except he's attacking people leaving, too. *NM*
- 08/11/2010 04:30:02 AM
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I would too.
- 08/11/2010 05:08:37 AM
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well fine, but you're telling them to leave, and attacking them for doing so.
- 08/11/2010 07:18:45 PM
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And here come the ad hominem attacks.
- 08/11/2010 09:32:23 PM
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No, it's more like a boss firing an employee and then bitching about them leaving. *NM*
- 08/11/2010 10:43:56 PM
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Did you hear the Church have stopped approving applications for people to officially leave,
- 08/11/2010 07:13:15 PM
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Not at all.
- 08/11/2010 09:29:29 PM
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Yeah, I'm with Dragonsoul on this one
- 08/11/2010 09:39:13 PM
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It makes a difference when they use your name as part of a statistic
- 09/11/2010 12:28:51 AM
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Re: Pope criticises gay marriage and abortion at cathedral consecration in Spain
- 08/11/2010 05:24:46 PM
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This is funny.
- 09/11/2010 08:42:52 PM
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I often wonder the same thing, think about the sheer quantity of proven pedophile priests, then...
- 13/11/2010 11:07:39 PM
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