Yet she accomplished a lot more than Obama and Reids bipartisanship.
Joel Send a noteboard - 08/11/2010 03:13:33 AM
Seriously, i heard so much negative talk about her during this election but no one ever said anything about why they specifically hate her so much? is it the creepy plastic surgery? cuz other than that i cant off the top of my head remember her doing or saying anything other democrats were not saying.
After six years of GOP control of Congress and the Presidency that saw some pretty mean and nasty treatment of "the other party" she managed to come in when the Democrats retook control of congress in a cry by the public for more bi-partisanship and managed to make Congress even worse. In the last two years there has been very little across the aisle talk between parties, some by GOP choice but a lot of it by the Democrat's refusal to forgive and forget and cooperate in a reasonable manner. Some of that, well, a lot of that has to fall at the feet of leadership and she was the primary voice of the Democrats the last two years. While I don't think she is dumb like some other people I don't like I do think it was a mistake for the democrats to ever let her be Speaker. During several of her speeches I hear parts of, including her speech right before passing Healthcare, she sounded out of touch with the mood of the nation and even somewhat patronizing. The House of Representatives is supposed to be the voice of the people. She made it the voice of her beliefs and ignored any other dissenting voices as she barreled on and forced legislation that most Americans simply did not want made law.
Oh, I had to laugh when she recently made clear she wants to remain as the Minority Leader. If the Democrats let her take that position then they truly deserve to take even further losses in 2012. She has no business leading anything anymore.
Republican may hate Pelosi, but I think we all know who and what they've been primarily running against for the last year and a half. The bill Pelosis House passed would've gotten libs to the polls, but after it was reconciled with the Senate bill (i.e. gutted) libs stayed home. Obama can tell us this is no time to sit out the process, but if he can do it I don't see why I can't. Particularly when the same David Axelrod who's been spamming me since I stood in the Austin drizzle for Obamas first major rally, next to someone I drove 90 miles (one way) to get there, has suddenly decided my thoughts and feelings are no longer welcome in the administration I nominated and elected (my money, of course, is as welcome as ever ).
Bipartisanship was never on the table here, and I consider it to Pelosis credit that she realized that. How many Republicans in the House and Senate vote for the healthcare bill? Hell, how many of them voted for ANY piece of Obama legislation (y'know, except for the no strings corporate bailouts they call socialism now)? Her style may at times be lacking, her civility, but her basic attitude is entirely justified. You can't "work with" people who've explicitly stated at the outset their only goal is your failure. Given that as many people oppose Obamacare because it did too LITTLE rather than too much, and that a majority still supports healthcare reform, saying her views on the issue don't represent the majority seems questionable to me. One thing of which I'm certain though is that of Pelosi, Reid and Obama, her efforts on healthcare reform reflected the majority will FAR more than those of the other two. Obama and Reid blew this one (HUGELY) but she'll pay the price. Typical.
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Why do conservatives hate Nancy Pelosi?
07/11/2010 09:26:53 PM
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possibly because she is too good at her job
07/11/2010 10:10:28 PM
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I suspect that's much of it, though she does lend herself to caricature.
08/11/2010 02:46:54 AM
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Misogyny is a big part, Tom Daschle and Harry Reid was never hated as much as her
08/11/2010 05:01:08 AM
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I'm not sure that's enough; Pelosi's far more liberal than either of them.
08/11/2010 09:51:33 PM
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Well, not to point out the obvious, but she was Speaker of the House
07/11/2010 10:18:33 PM
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Re: Well, not to point out the obvious, but she was Speaker of the House
08/11/2010 12:14:42 AM
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One of those charges is valid though, sadly.
08/11/2010 03:02:35 AM
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The ketchup controversy, seriously?
08/11/2010 06:00:58 AM
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Which neither you nor Cecil Adams have disproven here, so, youbetcha.
08/11/2010 09:50:07 PM
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This probably one of those rare ones where will have to agree to disagree
09/11/2010 01:08:54 AM
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Perhaps, since we seem to disagree on the facts as well as how they were spun.
10/11/2010 01:10:21 PM
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Joel has a few pet "facts" that he bases his world view around
10/11/2010 02:08:20 PM
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Hey, I didn't bring up the GOP starving kids to enrich millionaires.
10/11/2010 05:53:07 PM
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really one interview with one guy who has been out of power for decades
10/11/2010 06:57:16 PM
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The interview was quite relevant when given.
10/11/2010 09:32:27 PM
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but you know all about the inner workings because of an entire party?
10/11/2010 11:29:35 PM
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No, Pelosi did, that's the point
10/11/2010 09:41:39 PM
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I understand, but what's really sad is it's hard to be sure WHICH GOP policy she meant.
10/11/2010 10:03:22 PM
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Because Nancy Pelosi is rather...liberal in her Political Positions.
08/11/2010 02:20:56 AM
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I wouldn't call myself conservative but I don't like her because...
08/11/2010 02:40:19 AM
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Yet she accomplished a lot more than Obama and Reids bipartisanship.
08/11/2010 03:13:33 AM
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No, she didn't.
08/11/2010 03:42:45 AM
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Bipartisanship was never on the table, and Obama DID try (too hard).
08/11/2010 09:30:15 PM
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he had a luncheon and everything
10/11/2010 04:16:01 PM
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Trying to work with people dedicated to his demise was a SYMPTOM of his leadership failings.
10/11/2010 05:44:29 PM
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Trying to pick off a few republicans is not the same thing as working with them
10/11/2010 06:56:04 PM
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After that link...
10/11/2010 09:44:32 PM
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yes but when the middle hate you then you are in real trouble
10/11/2010 11:34:28 PM
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I don't think the middle hates him, they're just disgusted with him.
11/11/2010 01:44:54 PM
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Re: Trying to work with people dedicated to his demise was a SYMPTOM of his leadership failings.
10/11/2010 07:04:57 PM
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Sounds like the bill they SHOULD'VE passed.
10/11/2010 09:23:53 PM
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That bill is part of why Bob Bennett lost his senate seat.
10/11/2010 09:32:36 PM
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I suspected that might be the case when I was reading about it at the link.
10/11/2010 09:39:53 PM
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I'm just gonna put this idea out there...
08/11/2010 07:17:36 PM
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I can see Russia from my house? *NM*
09/11/2010 12:15:40 AM
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Yeah, I thought he explained it rather well, until...
09/11/2010 08:26:13 AM
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Did she actually say that?
09/11/2010 03:31:50 PM
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She did say that, I'm not sure if it's EXACTLY what she said...
09/11/2010 04:04:02 PM
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it doesn't matter what she says people need to believe she is stupid so they find proof even
09/11/2010 04:36:28 PM
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well if it makes you feel better, I don't think she's particularly unintelligent
09/11/2010 05:03:03 PM
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Believe she actually said something about having Russia for a neighbor gave her foreign policy cred.
10/11/2010 06:04:15 PM
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She merely said one could see Russia from somewhere in Alaska, which I believe is correct.
09/11/2010 04:15:05 PM
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it does seem to be a pretty silly thing to say without more to directly accompany it.
09/11/2010 04:32:02 PM
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Only you would jump to physical appearance as the first and only reason you can think of *NM*
09/11/2010 11:24:36 PM
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I don't hate her. I just have a great dislike for her political views.
10/11/2010 09:38:38 PM
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She's too conservative for you? Really? *NM*
11/11/2010 05:22:59 PM
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Yes. I come from a country where she would be seen as quite right-wing politician.
13/11/2010 12:29:26 AM
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Wow, what qualifies as far to the left in Sweden?
13/11/2010 01:52:40 AM
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