You know, next time you tell people to not reopen certain debates...
Legolas Send a noteboard - 07/11/2010 09:28:21 PM
I don't know Spanish law, but it's not the US, and certainly separation of church and state is not a widely accepted policy in Vatican City. There are many legitimate discussions to be had there, too, since Spain is under no obligation to accept any papal influence over its laws (and as a foreign head of state, whether or not everyone is willing to accept that, there's strong reason NOT to allow his influence over Spanish law). The Pope retains the title of "Christs Vicar on Earth", however, and Roman Catholic canon law is quite explicit on both points. When consecrating a church in a country where profaning a Catholic sacrament is now protected by federal law it would be irresponsible not to comment on the latter.
... you might want to refrain from referring to gay marriage with subjective and biased (and, frankly, ridiculous) terms like "profaning a Catholic sacrament". It's not as if gay marriages, in Spain or elsewhere, take place in Catholic churches or involve the Catholic sacrament of marriage.
Pope criticises gay marriage and abortion at cathedral consecration in Spain
07/11/2010 08:18:06 PM
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Can't wait to see what he says about sanctity of life next time he's in TX....
07/11/2010 08:51:41 PM
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You know, next time you tell people to not reopen certain debates...
07/11/2010 09:28:21 PM
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Does Spain distinguish between secular and sacramental marriage?
08/11/2010 01:10:47 AM
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I would assume so, but can't say for sure.
08/11/2010 10:27:01 AM
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Well, that's the out then.
08/11/2010 11:00:14 PM
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I'm more looking forward to how the Texans affirm their support for the institution like Spain
09/11/2010 11:36:16 PM
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The Catholic Church as a whole is opposed to capital punishment, and is fairly vocal about it.
09/11/2010 11:55:18 PM
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But that's personal issues of the clergy and whatnot involved. It's not doctrine
13/11/2010 02:20:38 AM
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Spain doesn't have to deal with Fourteenth Amendments Equal Protection Clause.
10/11/2010 12:25:05 PM
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Re: Spain doesn't have to deal with Fourteenth Amendments Equal Protection Clause.
13/11/2010 02:25:01 AM
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Now that is the way to protest against the Pope. I wish people had thought of that here. *NM*
07/11/2010 09:02:51 PM
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The girl on girl kissing? Hell, yeah.
07/11/2010 09:23:17 PM
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you must have the Ugly lesbian Club in your area
07/11/2010 09:28:02 PM
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Re: you must have the Ugly lesbian Club in your area
07/11/2010 10:05:58 PM
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she's lesbian.
07/11/2010 10:32:37 PM
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Re: she's lesbian.
08/11/2010 01:14:32 AM
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lol sorry. I wasn't trying to come off all offended or like I was trying to spoil your joke
08/11/2010 01:26:54 AM
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Referring to the 1930s and then talking of re-evangelization is a rather painful gaffe, I must say.
07/11/2010 09:13:19 PM
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dang. how big and fancy is this cathedral going to be? *NM*
07/11/2010 09:28:44 PM
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Huge, but mostly it's just been built very slowly for financial reasons.
08/11/2010 10:23:32 AM
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Uh yeah because Franco was worse than the communists....
08/11/2010 03:43:55 AM
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Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
08/11/2010 10:17:10 AM
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Re: Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
08/11/2010 03:31:45 PM
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Re: Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
08/11/2010 10:28:01 PM
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Re: Was he worse? We'll never know, seeing how he was the one that came out on top.
09/11/2010 10:24:38 AM
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Ah, classic communist logic.
09/11/2010 08:17:48 PM
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I wouldn't expect anything less of him. *NM*
08/11/2010 02:28:36 AM
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Yeah, wouldn't it be hilariously awesome if he was, like, "Dudes, gay marriage ain't so bad." *NM*
08/11/2010 02:58:48 AM
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Again: The Pope doesn't oppress anyone.
08/11/2010 03:40:19 AM
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Awesome, except he's attacking people leaving, too. *NM*
08/11/2010 04:30:02 AM
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I would too.
08/11/2010 05:08:37 AM
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well fine, but you're telling them to leave, and attacking them for doing so.
08/11/2010 07:18:45 PM
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And here come the ad hominem attacks.
08/11/2010 09:32:23 PM
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No, it's more like a boss firing an employee and then bitching about them leaving. *NM*
08/11/2010 10:43:56 PM
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Did you hear the Church have stopped approving applications for people to officially leave,
08/11/2010 07:13:15 PM
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Not at all.
08/11/2010 09:29:29 PM
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Yeah, I'm with Dragonsoul on this one
08/11/2010 09:39:13 PM
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It makes a difference when they use your name as part of a statistic
09/11/2010 12:28:51 AM
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Re: Pope criticises gay marriage and abortion at cathedral consecration in Spain
08/11/2010 05:24:46 PM
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This is funny.
09/11/2010 08:42:52 PM
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I often wonder the same thing, think about the sheer quantity of proven pedophile priests, then...
13/11/2010 11:07:39 PM
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