We have all grown up on a steady diet of advertising, I don't know why you find the toy troublesome, its no different then any of the following:
A fortune cookie
A comic in a Bazooka Joe gum wrapper
A piece of trivia printed on a sugar packet, oatmeal, or cereal box
The toys regularly include in snack and cereal boxes
Or for a non-food example:
In the newspaper... the comics, the crossword, the horoscope, and advice columns... none of which qualify as news, except arguably the horoscope, since in theory they are providing people very relevant and personal news.
What all of these things have in common is that they are add-ons not directly connected to the obvious purpose of the product, and they are included because more people like them enough to cover the additional cost then reject the product for the increased cost. They're not cocaine, its not sinister, its fools who think they know what's best because everyone else are stupid sheep that are the real problem, because they focus on one thing, get hysterical, and ignore all the parallel cases.
Many people like fortune cookies just enough to sway some people into eating there, many people go to one restaurant because they like the decor, neither of these examples, nor the Happy Meal Toy, represent legit add-ons to nutritious or delicious food in of themselves. Just as the crossword or the horoscope don't make my paper any more informative nor does the trivia on my sugar packet make my coffee any sweeter and God knows the whip cream and chocolate sprinkles on my mocha certainly aren't significantly increasing my caffeine intake. They just add something extra to the experience, and people like that something extra, so the producers give it to them. A car gets you from point A to point B, a radio is not necessary, but its popular and so its a standard feature, increasing the cost of a vehicle, the toy is the same, and I think everyone knows this, most of us have watched thousands of hours of commercials in our lives after all, you don't really think any parents thought McD's threw in toys for altruism or didn't think a kid who enjoyed the toy might be more inclined to want another Happy Meal in the future, did you?
There are literally thousands if not millions of examples of these tiny little lures used to promote items, the only excuse to go after fast food on this while ignoring everyone else is that its bad for your health, but as Chas just pointed out, citing an article an incredibly clever fellow on this site once posted, fast food as particularly unhealthy is basically nonsense, thus removing even that incredibly thin justification. I don't think 'coco-puffs with secret treasure inside' ever fooled many adults for its health value, and as we say, if it did fool them, then the kids under their parentage have much more serious hurdles for their childhood then a slightly increased risk of cavities and obesity, like Dad's bad habit of blowing the family savings on bridges people keep selling him for low low prices.
A fortune cookie
A comic in a Bazooka Joe gum wrapper
A piece of trivia printed on a sugar packet, oatmeal, or cereal box
The toys regularly include in snack and cereal boxes
Or for a non-food example:
In the newspaper... the comics, the crossword, the horoscope, and advice columns... none of which qualify as news, except arguably the horoscope, since in theory they are providing people very relevant and personal news.
What all of these things have in common is that they are add-ons not directly connected to the obvious purpose of the product, and they are included because more people like them enough to cover the additional cost then reject the product for the increased cost. They're not cocaine, its not sinister, its fools who think they know what's best because everyone else are stupid sheep that are the real problem, because they focus on one thing, get hysterical, and ignore all the parallel cases.
Many people like fortune cookies just enough to sway some people into eating there, many people go to one restaurant because they like the decor, neither of these examples, nor the Happy Meal Toy, represent legit add-ons to nutritious or delicious food in of themselves. Just as the crossword or the horoscope don't make my paper any more informative nor does the trivia on my sugar packet make my coffee any sweeter and God knows the whip cream and chocolate sprinkles on my mocha certainly aren't significantly increasing my caffeine intake. They just add something extra to the experience, and people like that something extra, so the producers give it to them. A car gets you from point A to point B, a radio is not necessary, but its popular and so its a standard feature, increasing the cost of a vehicle, the toy is the same, and I think everyone knows this, most of us have watched thousands of hours of commercials in our lives after all, you don't really think any parents thought McD's threw in toys for altruism or didn't think a kid who enjoyed the toy might be more inclined to want another Happy Meal in the future, did you?
There are literally thousands if not millions of examples of these tiny little lures used to promote items, the only excuse to go after fast food on this while ignoring everyone else is that its bad for your health, but as Chas just pointed out, citing an article an incredibly clever fellow on this site once posted, fast food as particularly unhealthy is basically nonsense, thus removing even that incredibly thin justification. I don't think 'coco-puffs with secret treasure inside' ever fooled many adults for its health value, and as we say, if it did fool them, then the kids under their parentage have much more serious hurdles for their childhood then a slightly increased risk of cavities and obesity, like Dad's bad habit of blowing the family savings on bridges people keep selling him for low low prices.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
San Francisco Bans The Happy Meal
04/11/2010 04:00:12 AM
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Is't it nice that we have the Food Gestapo to tell us what we can and can't eat? *NM*
04/11/2010 04:46:04 AM
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It doesn't say anything about what you can and can't eat, it just says you can't be rewarded with
04/11/2010 11:25:31 AM
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For someone ostensibly obsessed with Germany, you sure enjoy trivializing the Holocaust. *NM*
04/11/2010 11:56:49 PM
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The term has also come to mean an overly authoritarian and repressive organization
05/11/2010 05:54:45 AM
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now, they only really banned the toy that comes with the happy meal if it doesn't meet guidelines
04/11/2010 06:32:46 AM
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the government should not have to right to say how I feed my child
04/11/2010 01:37:41 PM
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I find feeding happy meals to children far more appalling.
04/11/2010 01:39:13 PM
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the government limits the kind of advertising your child sees during saturday morning cartoons
04/11/2010 03:36:47 PM
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that isn't even close to the same thing
04/11/2010 04:15:09 PM
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Don't forget the removal of more and more activity.
05/11/2010 12:32:03 AM
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yeah that is why kids are getting fat
05/11/2010 04:26:38 AM
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wow, ever consider that political leanings have nothing to do with my opinion
05/11/2010 11:59:15 AM
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your the one who wanted to bring your politics into it
05/11/2010 12:23:08 PM
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uhm, what? I said no such thing.
05/11/2010 12:33:22 PM
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it is exactly the same thing you're just trying to dance around the issue
05/11/2010 06:31:26 AM
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saying something does not make it true
05/11/2010 12:17:00 PM
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I wouldn't touch the metric system with a 1.038m pole *NM*
04/11/2010 10:47:51 AM
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The law is just fighting a small symptom of a much bigger problem
04/11/2010 11:24:19 AM
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yes
04/11/2010 11:47:47 AM
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But they are confronted with a lot of idiot parents that create a lot of idiot children
05/11/2010 08:18:54 AM
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100% agree, in respect to this and other related subjects.
04/11/2010 01:42:32 PM
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I don't think the toy is that big of a draw for kids, really.
04/11/2010 05:11:10 PM
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The toys were a definite draw for mine
05/11/2010 08:20:05 AM
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Perhaps
05/11/2010 07:41:17 PM
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You're using yourself as an example at an age when the effect will be less anyway
06/11/2010 07:11:11 AM
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Not a big fan of that decision, either. As for introducing the metric system: would be past time.
04/11/2010 12:01:41 PM
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Here in Aus we have fruit bags, and water etc. options for Happy Meals
04/11/2010 12:32:16 PM
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The healthier variety is starting to become more common in kids meals.
04/11/2010 12:50:44 PM
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milk or juice have ALWAYS been options, and every mcdonalds i've been to has offered the apples. *NM*
04/11/2010 01:36:34 PM
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Too bad milk and juice are horrible choices too. *NM*
04/11/2010 10:54:36 PM
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uhmm, bullshit.
04/11/2010 11:39:09 PM
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Juice is nothing but sugar and milk as healthy is debatable.
05/11/2010 12:37:34 AM
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juice is not just sugar.
05/11/2010 02:11:12 AM
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Here. not the best source, but assuming the nutritionist's analyzer was correct...
05/11/2010 02:24:18 AM
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I'm not talking about juicing vegetables and fresh fruit.
05/11/2010 03:06:54 AM
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no it was not clear. You merely said "Juice"
05/11/2010 03:16:01 AM
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Milk is delicious. And it (when low-fat/skim) isn't actively bad for you.
05/11/2010 03:33:53 AM
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I know, but...just...EW.
05/11/2010 03:43:49 AM
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Agreed, as long as it's treated the right way (i.e. not the American way). *NM*
05/11/2010 09:56:16 AM
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Please elaborate.
05/11/2010 01:27:45 PM
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I remember the first time I came to Northern America (Canada, then) and tried drinking milk...
05/11/2010 04:44:01 PM
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You can get UHT milk
05/11/2010 04:47:53 PM
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Yeah, no doubt - you can get most anything in the US, but not necessarily easily.
05/11/2010 05:46:59 PM
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I live in a big enough city you can get pretty much anything you want
05/11/2010 07:02:44 PM
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How about the water?
05/11/2010 06:24:09 PM
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I remember when I lived in Germany, I found warm, boxed milk to be one of the stranger oddities.
05/11/2010 08:57:42 PM
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so what do you think kids should drink?
05/11/2010 04:28:36 AM
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Do this little experiment. Please.
05/11/2010 12:53:49 PM
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that is why my kids drinks milk or water and not juice 99% of time
05/11/2010 02:03:08 PM
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Of course!
05/11/2010 02:11:35 PM
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I am fighting my wife right now over the yogurt in a tube crap
05/11/2010 02:35:41 PM
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Ha! You should do the sugar measuring with her. It'll show her how much is in that 1 little tube. *NM*
05/11/2010 04:00:55 PM
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they have the option but i'm sure that fruit has 1200mg of sodium in it somehow *NM*
05/11/2010 06:35:36 AM
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I'm going to go set up the black market for happy meals in San Francisco.
04/11/2010 01:21:34 PM
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so in otherwords...Happy Meals in San Francisco don't come with toys anymore?
04/11/2010 01:38:03 PM
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This is pretty stupid.
04/11/2010 02:13:17 PM
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That part was a bit of hyperbole, I'm afraid. *NM*
04/11/2010 03:01:52 PM
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Not very much!
04/11/2010 03:04:58 PM
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I feel so exploited now
04/11/2010 03:31:26 PM
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*dons detective hat* Very interesting...
04/11/2010 03:35:08 PM
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Re: *dons detective hat* Very interesting...
04/11/2010 03:57:04 PM
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Another hint
04/11/2010 04:02:54 PM
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Re: Another hint
04/11/2010 04:23:28 PM
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Ah, Republicans and sex scandals. They go together like beer and kebabs,
04/11/2010 04:29:19 PM
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All we need is for someone else to pay for our national defense and we can do it *NM*
04/11/2010 04:16:28 PM
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They should ban something which may have effect instead.
04/11/2010 02:27:05 PM
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The toys do have effect. It's a positive reinforcer to eating the meal.
04/11/2010 10:57:49 PM
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What a bunch of morons.
04/11/2010 06:45:31 PM
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these are the same people who keep sending Pelosi back year after year *NM*
04/11/2010 06:49:16 PM
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I accidentally posted this in the wrong spot. I reposted below to the original thread.
04/11/2010 11:22:32 PM
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Re:
05/11/2010 12:02:41 AM
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I'm not sure what your point is.
05/11/2010 12:42:14 AM
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That fast food is not inherently bad/unhealthy.
05/11/2010 01:16:51 AM
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Re: That fast food is not inherently bad/unhealthy.
05/11/2010 04:17:27 AM
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In that case: Yes, there's always a new meat sack/flesh puppet around the next corner. *NM*
05/11/2010 09:38:57 PM
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Many here don't seem to understand the purpose of the toy.
05/11/2010 12:43:27 AM
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I think you should assume we're not idiots
05/11/2010 02:05:51 AM
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kids of the happy meal age should not be deciding what they get to eat
05/11/2010 04:37:43 AM
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Re: kids of the happy meal age should not be deciding what they get to eat
05/11/2010 06:27:21 PM
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without a doubt parents need to be aware of marketing used to influence their kids
05/11/2010 07:29:06 PM
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Your overly-simplified psychology is wrong
05/11/2010 01:58:55 PM
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raw milk is banned because of the potential of illness.
05/11/2010 06:20:01 PM
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You miss my point (or helped me make it)
05/11/2010 07:58:59 PM
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because raw milk SALE AND DISTRIBUTION does not only affect the individual.
05/11/2010 08:37:10 PM
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Excuse me, I have a degree in psychology and I have oversimplified nothing.
05/11/2010 06:42:24 PM
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Like others have said...
05/11/2010 08:03:09 PM
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if they wanted to have a real impact they would ban drive throughs *NM*
05/11/2010 04:39:52 AM
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Yet again government not letting people make their own decisions
10/11/2010 03:01:15 AM
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