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churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it random thoughts Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM
There seems to be more focus about homosexuality in churches now then when I was growing up but I can promise you it would be a lot easier to come out now than when I was in school. I am not sure what would have happened to an openly gay student in Humble High School in 1983 but I would guess he would have to transfer. The one punk rocker we had got kicked out of school because he got in so many fights, I don’t believe he started a single one.

Society as whole as become more tolerant of most things including homosexuality. Some churches are already reflecting that and are teaching tolerance regardless of whether or they it is a sin. Most churches in the south would strongly condemn segregation but 40 years ago they found biblical justification for it. As society changes the churches will either change with or be marginalized.

Attacking the church for reflecting the attitude of society simply causes entrenchment of ideals and lessens tolerance. Savage is not doing the gay movement any favors with hate filled attacks on people trying to start a dialog.
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Love the Sinner - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1181 Views
I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 714 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 653 Views
That is not what I think requires thought - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 657 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 787 Views
for ze record - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 677 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 341 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 696 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 688 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 680 Views
He was very frank but completely founded - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 749 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 774 Views
I'm not sure that is true - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 659 Views
I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 739 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 573 Views
Yes and no - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 833 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 303 Views
I would think... - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 729 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 766 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 301 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 710 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 681 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 741 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 747 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 733 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 766 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 775 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 634 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 760 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 739 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 778 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 783 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 684 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 704 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 696 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 677 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 767 Views
I mostly agree - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 833 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 646 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 707 Views
Interesting - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 999 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 594 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 281 Views
Okay my response now - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 734 Views
He becomes what he hates. - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 860 Views
Good stuff. *NM* - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 303 Views
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I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 816 Views
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It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 661 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 775 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 690 Views
I don't think there is any question... - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 712 Views
If I may quibble: - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 539 Views
He's bullying Christians - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 691 Views
I agree - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 788 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 893 Views

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