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The one married to Eve, not the one from wotmania. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 05:23:24 PM
Hence my inclusion of Lucy as alternative (although, is Lucy actually in our line of descent, or just related?)
Or Lucy, if you're not willing to go there. The setup didn't so much rely on having Bismarck or someone just like him (in fact, it seems pretty clear he intended the Kaiser to be self sufficient once the Iron Chancellors task was done) it just depended on whoever was in charge not being a megalomaniacal idiot. I believe the John Adams line is "When providing for our posterity we should always remember that virtue is not hereditary. " Hmmm, maybe objecting to how other governments are run should've waited till the Americans left. :P

If you are going to place an extremely powerful weapon in someone's hands, you should either put in a good enough safety mechanism or accept the blame for what comes out of it. He didn't do the first....
And if the hands belong to a megalomaniacal idiot then you deserve even more blame:P

Maybe he should've ditched the monarchy and assumed power directly, but that isn't always popular Beyond the Sea. People have even staged revolutions to replace one monarch with yet another, raising the question of whether people who accept the monarchy as legal but nonetheless rebel fully grasp the meanings of "monarch", "rebel" and "legal. " :P But, once again, you can't control whether your boss' son is an idiot. Hence we move from Adam to Adams; virtue isn't hereditary, but that can be a hard sell (even when the heir to the throne is Edward VIII without the charisma. :P)
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The one married to Eve, not the one from wotmania. - 14/10/2010 05:23:24 PM 929 Views
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As if I would misspell the name of my historical crush *NM* - 14/10/2010 07:54:32 PM 623 Views
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