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By that logic it's Adams fault. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 03:12:22 PM
Creating a set up that relies on you (or someone exactly like you)always being in charge is pretty foolish.
Loser deserves to be taunted for his lack of vision.

Or Lucy, if you're not willing to go there. The setup didn't so much rely on having Bismarck or someone just like him (in fact, it seems pretty clear he intended the Kaiser to be self sufficient once the Iron Chancellors task was done) it just depended on whoever was in charge not being a megalomaniacal idiot. I believe the John Adams line is "When providing for our posterity we should always remember that virtue is not hereditary. " Hmmm, maybe objecting to how other governments are run should've waited till the Americans left. :P
Most people consider it in bad taste to use Southern minstrel songs to defend patriotism :P (though I concede this is the first time I've seen a Brit do it. ;))

I can imagine that is the case. Not relevant unless are you mixed up on where states are?

It was just a bit unexpected, and the context made that jarring. Most people wouldn't even make the connection any more, since the days of the minstrel shows popularity are mercifully behind us.
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The position of Prussia in Germany will not be determined by its liberalism but by its power Otto von Bismark - 14/10/2010 09:24:57 AM 1249 Views
Yes, and how'd that go for you snoopcester - 14/10/2010 10:14:19 AM 874 Views
Not that I wanna defend a militaristic and nationalistic post I don't agree with... ironclad - 14/10/2010 10:37:11 AM 828 Views
Pfft snoopcester - 14/10/2010 11:19:16 AM 705 Views
That's really not fair. Joel - 14/10/2010 12:57:15 PM 949 Views
</taking things too seriously> Rebekah - 14/10/2010 01:01:12 PM 691 Views
Helpful all around today, I see *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 01:16:14 PM 316 Views
He has good points, though. *NM* Legolas - 14/10/2010 01:16:46 PM 442 Views
Just not a sense of humour or a knowledge of American geography snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:16:27 PM 622 Views
I have a sense of humor! Joel - 14/10/2010 03:21:56 PM 689 Views
Pfft, you just have some knock of version, as the shoddy spelling shows. snoopcester - 14/10/2010 03:24:46 PM 651 Views
A poorly spelled knock of; I am duly chastened. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:30:27 PM 872 Views
A sense of humor only helps if something is actually funny *NM* Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 08:14:25 PM 432 Views
You have to have a sense of humour ro know if something is funny *wins* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 09:54:12 PM 665 Views
That explains oh so many British "comedies." *NM* ßelals Girl - 15/10/2010 07:51:07 PM 309 Views
Yeah, I do that sometimes. Joel - 14/10/2010 01:21:37 PM 724 Views
Right, so his actions led to it snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:29:08 PM 713 Views
By that logic it's Adams fault. Joel - 14/10/2010 03:12:22 PM 693 Views
Adams? snoopcester - 14/10/2010 03:28:30 PM 688 Views
The one married to Eve, not the one from wotmania. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:23:24 PM 844 Views
I was more confused if you meant "Adam's" or "Adams'", it was not at all clear snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:18:25 PM 831 Views
Well, at different points I meant each. Joel - 14/10/2010 07:49:24 PM 901 Views
Wow, that was really obnoxious. *NM* nossy - 14/10/2010 02:07:19 PM 435 Views
Still bitter, heh? Typical kraut, just can't accept the result snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:30:46 PM 702 Views
And/or I just find you annoying. nossy - 14/10/2010 06:10:05 PM 694 Views
No, you are just a sauerkraut *dies laughing* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:13:14 PM 707 Views
Well Sareitha Sedai - 14/10/2010 07:29:23 PM 702 Views
Yes snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:33:29 PM 680 Views
No need to thank us. Sareitha Sedai - 14/10/2010 07:37:48 PM 980 Views
Depressingly, snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:38:55 PM 668 Views
Indeed. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 10:01:51 PM 311 Views
Aw, Jen, you're the best *NM* ßelals Girl - 14/10/2010 07:53:01 PM 290 Views
That's British football fans for you ironclad - 14/10/2010 08:04:41 PM 945 Views
SEIG HEIL! *NM* Ectheledhel - 14/10/2010 10:43:42 AM 353 Views
If only I got an Euro each time someone misspelled this crap *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 10:58:22 AM 351 Views
~is helpful~ Rebekah - 14/10/2010 11:21:32 AM 708 Views
phew nossy - 14/10/2010 02:01:30 PM 793 Views
SIEG HEIL! *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:00:02 AM 316 Views
Also, wrong century. *NM* Lews_TherinThelamon - 14/10/2010 11:07:26 AM 447 Views
Yeah, well, that speech was given in 1863 and there was no Kaiser tell 1871 so go correct Otto *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:09:44 AM 438 Views
Also, HOHENZOLERNNNNNNN! *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:16:35 AM 319 Views
SIEGE HEIl! *NM* BlackAdder - 14/10/2010 11:09:55 AM 260 Views
At least spell his name correctly if you're going to quote him. Legolas - 14/10/2010 11:39:33 AM 735 Views
I didn't even notice (s)he'd not spelt it with the "c" *NM* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 11:42:53 AM 293 Views
That's how I knew it was just an impostor. ironclad - 14/10/2010 11:48:37 AM 701 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 14/10/2010 12:17:47 PM 663 Views
Re: Ah, Bergioyn - 14/10/2010 12:27:22 PM 669 Views
Excellent reasoning. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 10:03:23 PM 303 Views
Everything sounds better in German *NM* ßelals Girl - 14/10/2010 08:11:04 PM 344 Views
So isses *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 08:19:22 PM 340 Views
STOP IMPERSONATING MY HUBBY!!!! Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 01:25:29 PM 791 Views
Awesome SN I suggest a permanent change *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 01:32:43 PM 384 Views
I still like the other one better. Joel - 14/10/2010 03:19:18 PM 707 Views
Wait, that wasn't you? *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 01:36:21 PM 305 Views
She spelled the name correctly, with the "c". *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 01:51:19 PM 343 Views
I assumed that was a double bluff! *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 02:16:37 PM 301 Views
You should've known better: she's way to fastidious about her Germans to do so even in jest. lol *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 03:42:11 PM 294 Views
As if I would misspell the name of my historical crush *NM* Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 07:54:32 PM 591 Views
Now stop causing me trouble. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:31:49 PM 725 Views
Re: Bismarck Gaps - 14/10/2010 11:40:36 PM 675 Views
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