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By that logic it's Adams fault. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 03:12:22 PM
Creating a set up that relies on you (or someone exactly like you)always being in charge is pretty foolish.
Loser deserves to be taunted for his lack of vision.

Or Lucy, if you're not willing to go there. The setup didn't so much rely on having Bismarck or someone just like him (in fact, it seems pretty clear he intended the Kaiser to be self sufficient once the Iron Chancellors task was done) it just depended on whoever was in charge not being a megalomaniacal idiot. I believe the John Adams line is "When providing for our posterity we should always remember that virtue is not hereditary. " Hmmm, maybe objecting to how other governments are run should've waited till the Americans left. :P
Most people consider it in bad taste to use Southern minstrel songs to defend patriotism :P (though I concede this is the first time I've seen a Brit do it. ;))

I can imagine that is the case. Not relevant unless are you mixed up on where states are?

It was just a bit unexpected, and the context made that jarring. Most people wouldn't even make the connection any more, since the days of the minstrel shows popularity are mercifully behind us.
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The position of Prussia in Germany will not be determined by its liberalism but by its power Otto von Bismark - 14/10/2010 09:24:57 AM 1261 Views
Yes, and how'd that go for you snoopcester - 14/10/2010 10:14:19 AM 888 Views
Not that I wanna defend a militaristic and nationalistic post I don't agree with... ironclad - 14/10/2010 10:37:11 AM 847 Views
Pfft snoopcester - 14/10/2010 11:19:16 AM 719 Views
That's really not fair. Joel - 14/10/2010 12:57:15 PM 961 Views
</taking things too seriously> Rebekah - 14/10/2010 01:01:12 PM 704 Views
Helpful all around today, I see *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 01:16:14 PM 321 Views
He has good points, though. *NM* Legolas - 14/10/2010 01:16:46 PM 446 Views
Just not a sense of humour or a knowledge of American geography snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:16:27 PM 634 Views
I have a sense of humor! Joel - 14/10/2010 03:21:56 PM 701 Views
Pfft, you just have some knock of version, as the shoddy spelling shows. snoopcester - 14/10/2010 03:24:46 PM 666 Views
A poorly spelled knock of; I am duly chastened. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:30:27 PM 884 Views
A sense of humor only helps if something is actually funny *NM* Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 08:14:25 PM 436 Views
You have to have a sense of humour ro know if something is funny *wins* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 09:54:12 PM 683 Views
That explains oh so many British "comedies." *NM* ßelals Girl - 15/10/2010 07:51:07 PM 314 Views
Yeah, I do that sometimes. Joel - 14/10/2010 01:21:37 PM 735 Views
Right, so his actions led to it snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:29:08 PM 729 Views
By that logic it's Adams fault. Joel - 14/10/2010 03:12:22 PM 708 Views
Adams? snoopcester - 14/10/2010 03:28:30 PM 704 Views
The one married to Eve, not the one from wotmania. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:23:24 PM 859 Views
I was more confused if you meant "Adam's" or "Adams'", it was not at all clear snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:18:25 PM 844 Views
Well, at different points I meant each. Joel - 14/10/2010 07:49:24 PM 914 Views
Wow, that was really obnoxious. *NM* nossy - 14/10/2010 02:07:19 PM 439 Views
Still bitter, heh? Typical kraut, just can't accept the result snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:30:46 PM 715 Views
And/or I just find you annoying. nossy - 14/10/2010 06:10:05 PM 705 Views
No, you are just a sauerkraut *dies laughing* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:13:14 PM 715 Views
Well Sareitha Sedai - 14/10/2010 07:29:23 PM 717 Views
Yes snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:33:29 PM 693 Views
No need to thank us. Sareitha Sedai - 14/10/2010 07:37:48 PM 993 Views
Depressingly, snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:38:55 PM 681 Views
Indeed. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 10:01:51 PM 315 Views
Aw, Jen, you're the best *NM* ßelals Girl - 14/10/2010 07:53:01 PM 293 Views
That's British football fans for you ironclad - 14/10/2010 08:04:41 PM 958 Views
SEIG HEIL! *NM* Ectheledhel - 14/10/2010 10:43:42 AM 357 Views
If only I got an Euro each time someone misspelled this crap *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 10:58:22 AM 356 Views
~is helpful~ Rebekah - 14/10/2010 11:21:32 AM 721 Views
phew nossy - 14/10/2010 02:01:30 PM 809 Views
SIEG HEIL! *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:00:02 AM 320 Views
Also, wrong century. *NM* Lews_TherinThelamon - 14/10/2010 11:07:26 AM 451 Views
Yeah, well, that speech was given in 1863 and there was no Kaiser tell 1871 so go correct Otto *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:09:44 AM 443 Views
Also, HOHENZOLERNNNNNNN! *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:16:35 AM 324 Views
SIEGE HEIl! *NM* BlackAdder - 14/10/2010 11:09:55 AM 267 Views
At least spell his name correctly if you're going to quote him. Legolas - 14/10/2010 11:39:33 AM 746 Views
I didn't even notice (s)he'd not spelt it with the "c" *NM* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 11:42:53 AM 298 Views
That's how I knew it was just an impostor. ironclad - 14/10/2010 11:48:37 AM 715 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 14/10/2010 12:17:47 PM 677 Views
Re: Ah, Bergioyn - 14/10/2010 12:27:22 PM 683 Views
Excellent reasoning. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 10:03:23 PM 308 Views
Everything sounds better in German *NM* ßelals Girl - 14/10/2010 08:11:04 PM 349 Views
So isses *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 08:19:22 PM 345 Views
STOP IMPERSONATING MY HUBBY!!!! Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 01:25:29 PM 803 Views
Awesome SN I suggest a permanent change *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 01:32:43 PM 388 Views
I still like the other one better. Joel - 14/10/2010 03:19:18 PM 719 Views
Wait, that wasn't you? *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 01:36:21 PM 310 Views
She spelled the name correctly, with the "c". *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 01:51:19 PM 348 Views
I assumed that was a double bluff! *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 02:16:37 PM 306 Views
You should've known better: she's way to fastidious about her Germans to do so even in jest. lol *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 03:42:11 PM 299 Views
As if I would misspell the name of my historical crush *NM* Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 07:54:32 PM 595 Views
Now stop causing me trouble. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:31:49 PM 736 Views
Re: Bismarck Gaps - 14/10/2010 11:40:36 PM 690 Views
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