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By that logic it's Adams fault. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 03:12:22 PM
Creating a set up that relies on you (or someone exactly like you)always being in charge is pretty foolish.
Loser deserves to be taunted for his lack of vision.

Or Lucy, if you're not willing to go there. The setup didn't so much rely on having Bismarck or someone just like him (in fact, it seems pretty clear he intended the Kaiser to be self sufficient once the Iron Chancellors task was done) it just depended on whoever was in charge not being a megalomaniacal idiot. I believe the John Adams line is "When providing for our posterity we should always remember that virtue is not hereditary. " Hmmm, maybe objecting to how other governments are run should've waited till the Americans left. :P
Most people consider it in bad taste to use Southern minstrel songs to defend patriotism :P (though I concede this is the first time I've seen a Brit do it. ;))

I can imagine that is the case. Not relevant unless are you mixed up on where states are?

It was just a bit unexpected, and the context made that jarring. Most people wouldn't even make the connection any more, since the days of the minstrel shows popularity are mercifully behind us.
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The position of Prussia in Germany will not be determined by its liberalism but by its power Otto von Bismark - 14/10/2010 09:24:57 AM 1663 Views
Yes, and how'd that go for you snoopcester - 14/10/2010 10:14:19 AM 1223 Views
Not that I wanna defend a militaristic and nationalistic post I don't agree with... ironclad - 14/10/2010 10:37:11 AM 1212 Views
Pfft snoopcester - 14/10/2010 11:19:16 AM 1068 Views
That's really not fair. Joel - 14/10/2010 12:57:15 PM 1345 Views
</taking things too seriously> Rebekah - 14/10/2010 01:01:12 PM 1076 Views
Helpful all around today, I see *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 01:16:14 PM 493 Views
He has good points, though. *NM* Legolas - 14/10/2010 01:16:46 PM 676 Views
Just not a sense of humour or a knowledge of American geography snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:16:27 PM 987 Views
I have a sense of humor! Joel - 14/10/2010 03:21:56 PM 1065 Views
Pfft, you just have some knock of version, as the shoddy spelling shows. snoopcester - 14/10/2010 03:24:46 PM 1039 Views
A poorly spelled knock of; I am duly chastened. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:30:27 PM 1239 Views
A sense of humor only helps if something is actually funny *NM* Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 08:14:25 PM 622 Views
You have to have a sense of humour ro know if something is funny *wins* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 09:54:12 PM 1044 Views
That explains oh so many British "comedies." *NM* ßelals Girl - 15/10/2010 07:51:07 PM 477 Views
Yeah, I do that sometimes. Joel - 14/10/2010 01:21:37 PM 1089 Views
Right, so his actions led to it snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:29:08 PM 1091 Views
By that logic it's Adams fault. Joel - 14/10/2010 03:12:22 PM 1107 Views
Adams? snoopcester - 14/10/2010 03:28:30 PM 1057 Views
The one married to Eve, not the one from wotmania. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:23:24 PM 1250 Views
I was more confused if you meant "Adam's" or "Adams'", it was not at all clear snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:18:25 PM 1252 Views
Well, at different points I meant each. Joel - 14/10/2010 07:49:24 PM 1329 Views
Wow, that was really obnoxious. *NM* nossy - 14/10/2010 02:07:19 PM 614 Views
Still bitter, heh? Typical kraut, just can't accept the result snoopcester - 14/10/2010 02:30:46 PM 1071 Views
And/or I just find you annoying. nossy - 14/10/2010 06:10:05 PM 1069 Views
No, you are just a sauerkraut *dies laughing* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:13:14 PM 1061 Views
Well Sareitha Sedai - 14/10/2010 07:29:23 PM 1068 Views
Yes snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:33:29 PM 1041 Views
No need to thank us. Sareitha Sedai - 14/10/2010 07:37:48 PM 1333 Views
Depressingly, snoopcester - 14/10/2010 07:38:55 PM 1056 Views
Indeed. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 10:01:51 PM 487 Views
Aw, Jen, you're the best *NM* ßelals Girl - 14/10/2010 07:53:01 PM 468 Views
That's British football fans for you ironclad - 14/10/2010 08:04:41 PM 1383 Views
SEIG HEIL! *NM* Ectheledhel - 14/10/2010 10:43:42 AM 571 Views
If only I got an Euro each time someone misspelled this crap *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 10:58:22 AM 527 Views
~is helpful~ Rebekah - 14/10/2010 11:21:32 AM 1099 Views
phew nossy - 14/10/2010 02:01:30 PM 1190 Views
SIEG HEIL! *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:00:02 AM 508 Views
Also, wrong century. *NM* Lews_TherinThelamon - 14/10/2010 11:07:26 AM 637 Views
Yeah, well, that speech was given in 1863 and there was no Kaiser tell 1871 so go correct Otto *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:09:44 AM 619 Views
Also, HOHENZOLERNNNNNNN! *NM* Urza - 14/10/2010 11:16:35 AM 513 Views
SIEGE HEIl! *NM* BlackAdder - 14/10/2010 11:09:55 AM 447 Views
At least spell his name correctly if you're going to quote him. Legolas - 14/10/2010 11:39:33 AM 1091 Views
I didn't even notice (s)he'd not spelt it with the "c" *NM* snoopcester - 14/10/2010 11:42:53 AM 458 Views
That's how I knew it was just an impostor. ironclad - 14/10/2010 11:48:37 AM 1071 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 14/10/2010 12:17:47 PM 1035 Views
Re: Ah, Bergioyn - 14/10/2010 12:27:22 PM 1054 Views
Excellent reasoning. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2010 10:03:23 PM 489 Views
Everything sounds better in German *NM* ßelals Girl - 14/10/2010 08:11:04 PM 554 Views
So isses *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 08:19:22 PM 521 Views
STOP IMPERSONATING MY HUBBY!!!! Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 01:25:29 PM 1154 Views
Awesome SN I suggest a permanent change *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 01:32:43 PM 574 Views
I still like the other one better. Joel - 14/10/2010 03:19:18 PM 1100 Views
Wait, that wasn't you? *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 01:36:21 PM 477 Views
She spelled the name correctly, with the "c". *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 01:51:19 PM 535 Views
I assumed that was a double bluff! *NM* ironclad - 14/10/2010 02:16:37 PM 487 Views
You should've known better: she's way to fastidious about her Germans to do so even in jest. lol *NM* Macharius - 14/10/2010 03:42:11 PM 494 Views
As if I would misspell the name of my historical crush *NM* Amanda von Bismarck - 14/10/2010 07:54:32 PM 793 Views
Now stop causing me trouble. Joel - 14/10/2010 05:31:49 PM 1129 Views
Re: Bismarck Gaps - 14/10/2010 11:40:36 PM 1108 Views
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