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I mostly agree ironclad Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM
Because most bullies do so because the object of their harassment is violating scripture. In fact some of the people who bullied me as a child carried around bibles with them to point out the specific passages I was violating by being shy and having poor fashion sense. I'm sure their parents spent a lot of time at the dinner table every night telling them why they should hate shy people for being subhuman, and their preachers shouted it from the pulpit ever Sunday. Damn Christians and their making people like me into subjects of daily mockery and harassment.

Oh wait, I was bullied because I was different and thus seemed weird to other kids. You know, kinda like how gay kids are different, both in their nature (who they are attracted to) and in their behavior (in some cases). Thus, they have big targets hung on them for bullies. Just like kids like me did, or kids with big ears that stick out, or fat kids or any number of other kids.

Kids are a tough crowd. Even if a preacher or their parents don't tell them something is bad, heck, even if said preacher/parents tell them that such a thing is NOT bad and to be nice, most of the time they'll sniff it out anyway and mock it as they see fit. Kids can be nasty shits.

With all of the above.

But no, being against a particular legal issue means that you see gays as subhumans, which means that you will pass those beliefs onto your kids and turn them into little klansmen, which means that your kids will become merciless bullies, which means that they will drive gay kids to kill themselves. If you are against gay marriage, you are causing the deaths of gay kids. Fact.

However, I do believe that "the little clansmen" thing happens a lot in fanatically religious families. Whether or not those are the kids that end up bullying gays (or other outsiders) is a statistic that's probably impossible to prove, though.
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Love the Sinner - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1181 Views
I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 714 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 653 Views
That is not what I think requires thought - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 657 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 787 Views
for ze record - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 677 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 341 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 696 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 688 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 681 Views
He was very frank but completely founded - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 749 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 774 Views
I'm not sure that is true - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 659 Views
I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 739 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 573 Views
Yes and no - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 833 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 303 Views
I would think... - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 729 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 766 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 301 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 710 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 681 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 741 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 748 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 733 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 766 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 775 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 634 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 760 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 739 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 778 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 783 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 684 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 704 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 696 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 677 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 767 Views
I mostly agree - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 834 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 646 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 707 Views
Interesting - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 999 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 594 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 281 Views
Okay my response now - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 734 Views
He becomes what he hates. - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 860 Views
Good stuff. *NM* - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 303 Views
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I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 816 Views
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It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 661 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 776 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 690 Views
I don't think there is any question... - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 712 Views
If I may quibble: - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 539 Views
He's bullying Christians - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 691 Views
I agree - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 788 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 893 Views

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