in a way I did since I did mention society
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 12/10/2010 08:54:07 PM
you do make an interesting point though. Most people feel a deeper moral obligation when it comes to people who are closer to them. Even if you don't feel a moral obligation towards a faceless bank or society as a whole do you feel a moral obligation to your neighbors? I would think most people would feel some obligation.
Of course with people spending lees and less time talking to their neighbors I wonder if this is as large of a factor as it used to be.
Of course with people spending lees and less time talking to their neighbors I wonder if this is as large of a factor as it used to be.
Is walking away from a mortgage immoral?
- 12/10/2010 04:45:43 PM
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Just as a contract is a two way street -
- 12/10/2010 05:12:09 PM
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Of course it's immoral.
- 12/10/2010 05:13:16 PM
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But does one sided morality work?
- 12/10/2010 05:38:56 PM
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You asked about the morality of walking away when the borrower still has the ability to pay.
- 12/10/2010 07:31:10 PM
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A company or organization cannot act morally or immorally? I strongly disagree. *NM*
- 12/10/2010 07:50:42 PM
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No, it cannot. However the individuals making the decisions for the company can. *NM*
- 12/10/2010 08:48:23 PM
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If banks can not behave in moral manner why should people be expected to behave in moral manner?
- 12/10/2010 08:07:56 PM
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I'm not absolved of my obligations based on the bad behaviors of others.
- 12/10/2010 08:25:33 PM
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Because it's their moral obligation. Morality is not a trade, you act morally because it is right
- 12/10/2010 08:47:41 PM
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That's the only kind of morality there is! What the hell is wrong with you?
- 12/10/2010 08:15:55 PM
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nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again
- 12/10/2010 09:34:33 PM
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Re: nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again
- 15/10/2010 02:50:49 PM
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well I really can't argue with the wrong is wrong end of story belief system
- 15/10/2010 05:40:22 PM
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A contract isn't a promise; it's a legal agreement. *NM*
- 12/10/2010 06:25:24 PM
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Which is why contracts have to be pages and pages long and combed over by bloodsucking lawyers.
- 12/10/2010 06:39:18 PM
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I would agree with you if contracts didn't provide for breaking them.
- 12/10/2010 07:33:15 PM
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Hrm.
- 12/10/2010 07:35:38 PM
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did you take a personal oath in front of god and your loved ones to pay the loan back? *NM*
- 12/10/2010 08:09:07 PM
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Let's assume we're talking about a marriage where no such oath was taken... *NM*
- 12/10/2010 08:10:54 PM
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if there is no oath of fidelity then straying would not be immoral *NM*
- 12/10/2010 08:40:53 PM
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It's not immoral to break the marriage contract.
- 12/10/2010 08:19:50 PM
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That must be why they have you sign something called an agreementory note 
*NM*
- 12/10/2010 07:33:32 PM
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*NM*
- 12/10/2010 07:33:32 PM
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I don't think it's immoral at all. The contract usually specifies penalties for breach.
- 12/10/2010 05:28:34 PM
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You didn't mention the third party
- 12/10/2010 08:26:56 PM
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in a way I did since I did mention society
- 12/10/2010 08:54:07 PM
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What if you look at it from the other perspective?
- 12/10/2010 09:00:20 PM
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Sure, you could do that.
- 13/10/2010 01:54:55 AM
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The problem is that you're buying something today and paying for it for the next 15/30/50 years.
- 13/10/2010 03:04:26 PM
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As a professional in financial services - no, it is not.
- 13/10/2010 01:44:18 AM
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but almost nobody sees it that way
- 13/10/2010 12:53:25 PM
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Is the deal that if you default, the bank gets the house and nothing else, though?
- 13/10/2010 02:40:48 PM
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I think it's morally wrong to walk away from credit card debt. *NM*
- 13/10/2010 09:43:11 PM
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I agree, what do you think is different?
- 13/10/2010 09:59:36 PM
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The difference is that the bank owns the house. Whereas when I buy stuff, it's mine. *NM*
- 19/10/2010 07:05:34 PM
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I too am unable to work out what distinguishes the two situations.
- 13/10/2010 11:54:15 PM
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I lost sleep over it, but I did it anyway.
- 13/10/2010 05:24:19 AM
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Obviously, the essential difference is can't pay versus won't pay.
- 13/10/2010 02:16:07 PM
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are you socializing your debt when it is a private bank?
- 13/10/2010 03:14:48 PM
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You are when said bank requires a bailout. And very many of them do.
- 13/10/2010 03:22:59 PM
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I really don't understand a system where this could be an advantage.
- 13/10/2010 11:16:57 PM
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There's generally something like a 7 or 10 year limit on credit reporting here.
- 13/10/2010 11:46:58 PM
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What's the use of suing someone who has no money? *NM*
- 13/10/2010 11:48:47 PM
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You can garnish their wages.
- 13/10/2010 11:49:36 PM
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With parsley?
- 13/10/2010 11:51:37 PM
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No, "someone" most certainly did not, wicked young Miss! Hmph! *NM*
- 13/10/2010 11:52:40 PM
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If they suddenly come into some, you're entitled to it. *NM*
- 14/10/2010 12:07:34 AM
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Bit of a long shot. *NM*
- 14/10/2010 12:09:12 AM
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Very. Best to cover your bases though. *NM*
- 14/10/2010 10:04:25 PM
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Not if the doctrine of election applies.
- 14/10/2010 10:14:07 PM
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Are we not talking about credit companies going after people who owe them money?
- 14/10/2010 10:18:47 PM
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I am currently in that situation...
- 14/10/2010 05:03:23 AM
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In Washington you can contest the assessed value used to determine property taxes.
- 14/10/2010 07:27:02 AM
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it is easy for me and others to be glib when it is just a theory *NM*
- 14/10/2010 08:19:16 PM
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If you have the ability to pay, I would consider it yet another immoral act in an immoral industry.
- 14/10/2010 07:49:38 AM
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