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It makes sense StarEnight Send a noteboard - 13/09/2009 05:04:23 PM
This issue is so difficult. I wouldn't strip her of her medal if they honestly didn't know *but* How could they not? The facial structure, flat chest, and complete lack of curves are all male characteristics even without a penis. I've seen women that are body builders and they still have some residual feminine characteristics that this individual is obviously lacking.

Her body's natural production of testosterone has the same effect as one of the other competitors taking steroids. It creates an unfair advantage. I think it would be wrong to let her records stand since they could only really be broken by another athlete with a similar medical condition. (btw nobody tell China or they will be implanting them)

Wow I thought internal testicles only happened on medical dramas.
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Caster Semenya has male sex organs and no womb or ovaries everynametaken - 11/09/2009 12:24:30 PM 1476 Views
I think revoking the championship and a ban at this point would be plain wrong LadyLorraine - 11/09/2009 02:01:15 PM 829 Views
Well said. Lupine - 11/09/2009 02:10:31 PM 815 Views
agreed. *NM* Avendesora - 11/09/2009 02:36:06 PM 410 Views
I agree. *NM* @my - 11/09/2009 03:20:05 PM 400 Views
I agree it's not her fault, but she shouldn't keep her championship. Aemon - 11/09/2009 03:50:06 PM 791 Views
Possibly a quibble, but just trying to clarify... Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 05:15:52 PM 889 Views
It makes sense StarEnight - 13/09/2009 05:04:23 PM 837 Views
I disagree Сталин - 11/09/2009 04:09:50 PM 1153 Views
As bad as if feel for the athlete, I agree. *NM* ironclad - 11/09/2009 04:46:57 PM 383 Views
Ditto. Assuming she never knew about it, which remains to be seen. *NM* Wibble - 11/09/2009 08:08:29 PM 365 Views
To the extent that LadyLorraine means "at this point", I do agree with her... Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 05:03:34 PM 884 Views
Sounds like she/he is more dude than chick..... trzaska2000 - 11/09/2009 02:42:33 PM 888 Views
not really. it only takes ONE mistake to cause her problems. LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:19:06 AM 823 Views
It's not that simple with DNA either. Legolas - 12/09/2009 10:38:28 AM 915 Views
no it's not as simple as "XX" and "XY" LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:02:03 PM 846 Views
I think it is a sad story random thoughts - 11/09/2009 04:34:29 PM 892 Views
I agree. everynametaken - 11/09/2009 09:20:35 PM 933 Views
I like I said, tragic random thoughts - 11/09/2009 09:34:57 PM 781 Views
I can't believe this whole thing is public Monkey - 11/09/2009 07:03:59 PM 919 Views
That's a good idea! Floffe - 11/09/2009 07:17:20 PM 831 Views
Yeah, seems fair. Medal, no record. Legolas - 11/09/2009 07:57:38 PM 770 Views
How could she not know something was different? Not developing a period would be a major sign. *NM* everynametaken - 11/09/2009 09:21:54 PM 380 Views
Not necessarily, depending on the rigors of her athletic training. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 09:26:32 PM 355 Views
When do most girls get their first period? Around 12 or 13? everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:34:23 AM 745 Views
Yes, but 14 or 15 isn't out of the ordinary *NM* Floffe - 12/09/2009 11:23:09 AM 376 Views
I didn't start until I was 17 *NM* LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:02:28 PM 355 Views
That is a bit unusual. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 13/09/2009 01:17:18 AM 372 Views
starting THAT late is, yes LadyLorraine - 13/09/2009 04:24:44 AM 1005 Views
There are plenty of runners who do hard training that keeps them from getting a regular period Floffe - 11/09/2009 09:29:24 PM 846 Views
I'd say so too. Periods have a lot to do with % body fat. Lupine - 12/09/2009 12:28:46 AM 929 Views
Not at the age when a girl first develops her period. everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:36:24 AM 827 Views
You have an odd understanding of what's normal... Lupine - 12/09/2009 02:51:37 PM 839 Views
And you are still missing the point. everynametaken - 13/09/2009 01:18:54 AM 774 Views
And you're missing the point Sareitha Sedai - 13/09/2009 01:39:46 AM 809 Views
What Sareitha said. Lupine - 13/09/2009 03:50:05 AM 958 Views
people develop 30lb tumors and never go to get them checked out random thoughts - 11/09/2009 09:36:18 PM 869 Views
Well, now that you put it that way I guess I could see that. *NM* everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:37:18 AM 359 Views
Not that rare in athletes. Tashmere - 12/09/2009 01:06:27 AM 770 Views
like i said in my first post LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:25:04 AM 849 Views
I like that idea. That is the most sensible solution. *NM* Tashmere - 12/09/2009 01:07:42 AM 342 Views
This whole thing has been handled disgracefully Sidious - 12/09/2009 12:37:35 PM 945 Views
Considering that similar questions have arisen before Sareitha Sedai - 13/09/2009 01:43:18 AM 1001 Views
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