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Certainly it can. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/09/2010 12:35:56 PM
Speak? English and Spanish. Write? Same two. Read? Those two, plus Portuguese, Italian, French, and German.

Yeah, I kind of used "speak" in the sense of "know", I guess, but of course one can know a language in a way without being able to speak it well. Maybe it was badly phrased, then.
My high school graduating class was only 58 and it was in a very tiny rural town (despite me living in a Nashville exurb 15 minutes' drive east), so if any Spanish were really learned, it was a very pleasant surprise. So too little emphasis back in the early 1990s, obviously.

Sounds like, yes - would've been a good bit better if you'd had to continue Spanish until finishing HS, one imagines. Though as ent mentions, I imagine learning Spanish is becoming far easier now everywhere in the US, not just in the Southwest anymore.
Now for UT's history program, if I had completed my Ph.D. I would have been expected to have at least reading fluency in German and either French or Latin, considering my specialization was German cultural/religious history.

Yeah, I've noted before that American top universities are often quite impressive in their language education and requirements, unlike the high schools. A comparable history program here would also expect reading fluency in German and French without devoting any classes to it (but then reading fluency in German is very easy to obtain if one's native language is Dutch), but for programs that require more exotic languages (by our standards), American universities can easily stand the comparison. Although when it comes to majors and minors in, say, Japanese or other non-western languages, I've been given to understand American (and British) universities focus too much on academic knowledge and too little on working knowledge and speaking proficiency in those languages. Or so people say. Of course, the nature of your universities - the major/minor system, the general requirements - make it logical that an American student of for instance Japanese wouldn't be able to spend as much time learning Japanese as a Belgian one would.
Imperialism FTW? :P

You might say that, yes. :P
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Certainly it can. - 26/09/2010 12:35:56 PM 744 Views
You know, gen eds typically include a language. *NM* - 26/09/2010 07:28:57 PM 296 Views
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Interesting - 27/09/2010 03:14:00 AM 848 Views
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They should have asked about second languages rather than foreign languages. - 26/09/2010 11:34:27 AM 669 Views
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