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You have an odd understanding of what's normal... Lupine Send a noteboard - 12/09/2009 02:51:37 PM
Besides, as I point out to Sareitha, she didn't have a delayed or intermittent period, she never had anything, not even a dribble of blood. That thing is a right of passage for a girl, she and/or her mother would have known something was not correct.

If the body fat isn't there, then nothing (not even a dribble, or a delayed/intermittent period) happens. By itself, it's not a reason to assume she knew. I'll throw my personal experience out here - I had my first period rather young, at a chubby age 11, and continued to have them until age 14, when a combination of ballet and eating disorder caused me to lose a ton of weight. (Even at points when I was still really healthy and weighed a muscular 130 pounds [height 5'2], I had no periods, nothing. So it might well be possible that other girls who enter puberty that way don't start until rather late.) The (total) amenorrhea lasted two years, with weight fluctuations of more than 80 pounds. My doctors were never concerned about it unless I was underweight.

They did test my hormone levels at some point for another reason (mood disorder, I think?), and found that I had very high levels of estrogen and somewhat low testosterone. Meanwhile, all through this, other aspects of puberty were basically normal. I don't know if that was the case for Semenya, because I don't know how her condition would manifest exactly... you might be right if she showed no feminine attributes at all, but is that the case? It's difficult to talk about in a public arena.
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Caster Semenya has male sex organs and no womb or ovaries - 11/09/2009 12:24:30 PM 1694 Views
I think revoking the championship and a ban at this point would be plain wrong - 11/09/2009 02:01:15 PM 910 Views
Well said. - 11/09/2009 02:10:31 PM 889 Views
agreed. *NM* - 11/09/2009 02:36:06 PM 452 Views
I agree. *NM* - 11/09/2009 03:20:05 PM 436 Views
I agree it's not her fault, but she shouldn't keep her championship. - 11/09/2009 03:50:06 PM 874 Views
Possibly a quibble, but just trying to clarify... - 11/09/2009 05:15:52 PM 973 Views
It makes sense - 13/09/2009 05:04:23 PM 918 Views
I disagree - 11/09/2009 04:09:50 PM 1248 Views
As bad as if feel for the athlete, I agree. *NM* - 11/09/2009 04:46:57 PM 415 Views
To the extent that LadyLorraine means "at this point", I do agree with her... - 11/09/2009 05:03:34 PM 958 Views
Sounds like she/he is more dude than chick..... - 11/09/2009 02:42:33 PM 963 Views
not really. it only takes ONE mistake to cause her problems. - 12/09/2009 03:19:06 AM 903 Views
It's not that simple with DNA either. - 12/09/2009 10:38:28 AM 989 Views
no it's not as simple as "XX" and "XY" - 12/09/2009 03:02:03 PM 919 Views
I think it is a sad story - 11/09/2009 04:34:29 PM 971 Views
I agree. - 11/09/2009 09:20:35 PM 1014 Views
I like I said, tragic - 11/09/2009 09:34:57 PM 855 Views
I can't believe this whole thing is public - 11/09/2009 07:03:59 PM 998 Views
That's a good idea! - 11/09/2009 07:17:20 PM 904 Views
Yeah, seems fair. Medal, no record. - 11/09/2009 07:57:38 PM 845 Views
How could she not know something was different? Not developing a period would be a major sign. *NM* - 11/09/2009 09:21:54 PM 416 Views
Not necessarily, depending on the rigors of her athletic training. *NM* - 11/09/2009 09:26:32 PM 390 Views
When do most girls get their first period? Around 12 or 13? - 12/09/2009 07:34:23 AM 834 Views
Yes, but 14 or 15 isn't out of the ordinary *NM* - 12/09/2009 11:23:09 AM 415 Views
I didn't start until I was 17 *NM* - 12/09/2009 03:02:28 PM 386 Views
That is a bit unusual. *shrugs* *NM* - 13/09/2009 01:17:18 AM 420 Views
starting THAT late is, yes - 13/09/2009 04:24:44 AM 1078 Views
There are plenty of runners who do hard training that keeps them from getting a regular period - 11/09/2009 09:29:24 PM 930 Views
I'd say so too. Periods have a lot to do with % body fat. - 12/09/2009 12:28:46 AM 1022 Views
Not at the age when a girl first develops her period. - 12/09/2009 07:36:24 AM 913 Views
You have an odd understanding of what's normal... - 12/09/2009 02:51:37 PM 926 Views
And you are still missing the point. - 13/09/2009 01:18:54 AM 850 Views
And you're missing the point - 13/09/2009 01:39:46 AM 881 Views
What Sareitha said. - 13/09/2009 03:50:05 AM 1033 Views
people develop 30lb tumors and never go to get them checked out - 11/09/2009 09:36:18 PM 943 Views
Well, now that you put it that way I guess I could see that. *NM* - 12/09/2009 07:37:18 AM 394 Views
Not that rare in athletes. - 12/09/2009 01:06:27 AM 857 Views
like i said in my first post - 12/09/2009 03:25:04 AM 938 Views
I like that idea. That is the most sensible solution. *NM* - 12/09/2009 01:07:42 AM 373 Views
This whole thing has been handled disgracefully - 12/09/2009 12:37:35 PM 1020 Views
Considering that similar questions have arisen before - 13/09/2009 01:43:18 AM 1082 Views

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