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That's just Paris being a city of nasty people. Legolas Send a noteboard - 24/09/2010 06:32:40 PM
It is indeed. For example the main opposition party just appointed someone as their spokesperson for Community, Rural and Gaeltacht (including Irish language) affairs who doesn't even speak Irish The problem is that the vast majority of people will never speak a word of Irish outside of school so it's hard to develop your ability. Also many of the principal promoters of the language come across as having a holier than thou attitude which does Irish no favours.

That's fairly embarrassing, alright. But yeah, Irish is quite limited in daily use of course... but you would think nationalism and pride in the Irish culture would've made it more popular in the past, so that it wouldn't have come this far.
The fact that it is compulsory also seems to cause a build up of resentment in a lot of people who dislike the fact that they are forced to learn it when they are never going to use it.

Yeah, heard that before. I hardly find it unreasonable to make people learn the second language of the country and the language of its cultural heritage, though...
Yup, once you enter formal education (at age four or five) you are thought both English and Irish

That's just awesome. Instead of one language that is impossible to spell, you get two at the same time, with sounds pronounced totally differently in the two of them. How does anyone in Ireland manage to learn either language properly, never mind both? :P
Perhaps, but my experience of trying to use my French in Paris once fairly much put me off. I still use it when I go on holidays and I generally have good enough French to ask for stuff in a shop or restaurant but I wouldn't be up to holding a full conversation.

That's Paris for you. But yeah, the French in general are chauvinistic enough that some of them don't really appreciate tourists speaking intermediate or fluent but accented French. There's a lot of bad things one can say about Americans in terms of languages, but they're more welcoming of foreigners speaking their language than anyone else. Then again, they'd have to be.
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We have a similar situation in Belgium. - 24/09/2010 02:32:25 PM 641 Views
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That is rather sad to say the least. - 24/09/2010 04:15:32 PM 889 Views
Indeed - 24/09/2010 06:23:52 PM 705 Views
That's just Paris being a city of nasty people. - 24/09/2010 06:32:40 PM 850 Views
I never noticed that - 24/09/2010 07:05:18 PM 744 Views
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I didn't mean just in Sweden, or Scandinavia. - 24/09/2010 04:19:32 PM 774 Views
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American who just got a C+ on a French quiz reporting in. - 24/09/2010 06:09:31 PM 800 Views
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Real quick - 25/09/2010 12:03:51 PM 804 Views
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Certainly it can. - 26/09/2010 12:35:56 PM 797 Views
You know, gen eds typically include a language. *NM* - 26/09/2010 07:28:57 PM 314 Views
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Interesting - 27/09/2010 03:14:00 AM 890 Views
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You don't have to prove it's economically valid? - 27/09/2010 08:31:46 PM 819 Views
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They should have asked about second languages rather than foreign languages. - 26/09/2010 11:34:27 AM 730 Views
Aye, they should have. - 26/09/2010 12:26:51 PM 836 Views
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