Thirteen years with so little to show for it? I'll be the first to admit that some students here emerge from secondary school after eight years of French with a rather poor command of the language, and no doubt Irish is harder than French. But if it's as general a failure as you say, that's pretty bad.
It is indeed. For example the main opposition party just appointed someone as their spokesperson for Community, Rural and Gaeltacht (including Irish language) affairs who doesn't even speak Irish The problem is that the vast majority of people will never speak a word of Irish outside of school so it's hard to develop your ability. Also many of the principal promoters of the language come across as having a holier than thou attitude which does Irish no favours.
The fact that it is compulsory also seems to cause a build up of resentment in a lot of people who dislike the fact that they are forced to learn it when they are never going to use it.
Hold on, just thought of something - are you saying they have Irish classes from the very first year of primary school? As in, they learn to read in English and Irish simultaneously? Now that's ambitious...
Yup, once you enter formal education (at age four or five) you are thought both English and Irish
It's not really surprising and as I speak neither French nor German I guess I should be thankful.
Well, maybe if it was less strong, you'd have been forced to do more with your French and would speak it more fluently now?
Perhaps, but my experience of trying to use my French in Paris once fairly much put me off. I still use it when I go on holidays and I generally have good enough French to ask for stuff in a shop or restaurant but I wouldn't be up to holding a full conversation.
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/Survey: Foreign language knowledge in Europe (and elsewhere)
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That is rather sad to say the least.
24/09/2010 04:15:32 PM
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Indeed
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Interesting.
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Re: Interesting.
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Re: Interesting.
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Self-study can be worth as much as formal classroom study, I suppose
25/09/2010 03:43:14 PM
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Certainly it can.
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They should have asked about second languages rather than foreign languages.
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