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Re: Me, too. For a long time I was like it didn't matter, we owed the guy for the site, blah blah Aemon Send a noteboard - 18/09/2010 06:10:07 AM
I mean, without wotmania, I'd never have found the best friend I'll ever have; a person who truly is a brother to me. But the end there just completely soured me. He came off as extremely selfish and petty to me about it. It was his toy and he wasn't sharing even if he didn't want it any more.


I know. I'm very much a benefit-of-the-doubt, walk-a-mile-in-their-shoes kind of guy, so I tried not to read too much into workings that I knew little about. The problem, though, was that he just wouldn't communicate with the userbase. It was impossible to know what he was doing, and why he was doing it.

Even so, I still tried to attribute the most noble motivations I could think of to Mr. Mike. What finally tipped the scales for me was his clear, flat-out promise (in a site-wide announcement post) to provide noteboard exporting tools. And then his subsequent breaking of that promise. Even if he didn't want to write the tool, the least he could have done was give us advance warning. Instead he left us hanging, and a lot of people lost a big chunk of their online "lives." I won't say that action was unforgivable, but it was definitely inexcusable and unconscionable on his part.

They did have a link and that was very cool of them to do that. I don't see how it would hurt them to continue it.


I agree, and they may (continue it). I really don't think they've intentionally removed the wotmania landing page, and I hope that people will give it a week or two before they get upset. The reason I mentioned the link, though, is because I assume Mike knew it would be there. He communicated a lot with Jason before the site's demise (one of few people he talked to), and had some knowledge of what to expect. If Mike knew he could re-direct people looking for WoT content (which is what most people originally came to the site for, even at the end) to where it could be found, and still provide the community with a link to the new place. . .well, I think that's a workable solution. Not one I'd have chosen, but nothing terrible.

I don't know if wotmania's biggest draw was WOT there at the end. It might have been. I dunno. But the site had grown to a lot more than just WOT. Dragonmount didn't need the exposure and anyone who really just cared about the WOT stuff already knew about it. RAFO needed the extra exposure and we didn't get it.


If everyone who went to wotmania.com saw our RAFO link on the landing page, then we got some of it. You're preaching to the choir in this respect, though. I agree that it would have been better to direct people here, rather than Dragonmount. I'm not as upset about this facet as you seem to be, but I DO agree with you.

I know. I kept putting off saving them and ended up losing most of the ones I wanted to keep.


Yeah, and I'm sorry about that. As one of the admins and people with better than average tech/web knowledge, I felt kind of guilty about the whole thing. I kept thinking Mike and/or Ben was going to work something out, but that never materialized. I only started looking into the problem three or four days in advance, and that just wasn't nearly enough time. I know some people (Ben?) grabbed most of the messageboards, but I think people lost the majority of their noteboards. I wish I'd done something a little earlier.
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www.wotmania.com no longer leads to a Dragonmount page letting people know where we are. - 18/09/2010 01:07:47 AM 993 Views
Thankless bitches. *NM* - 18/09/2010 01:10:31 AM 245 Views
Yeah, I can't say I'm impressed with how they handled that. *NM* - 18/09/2010 02:23:33 AM 268 Views
Honestly, it's probably an oversight, or a temporary measure. EDIT - 18/09/2010 03:03:51 AM 612 Views
I still think Mike was a total asshole for not having it link to this site anyway. Whatever. *shrug* *NM* - 18/09/2010 03:12:08 AM 249 Views
+1 *NM* - 18/09/2010 03:21:21 AM 234 Views
What was his reasoning for that, anyway? *NM* - 18/09/2010 04:59:26 AM 253 Views
Yeah, I half agree. - 18/09/2010 05:36:33 AM 740 Views
Me, too. For a long time I was like it didn't matter, we owed the guy for the site, blah blah blah. - 18/09/2010 05:43:11 AM 676 Views
Re: Me, too. For a long time I was like it didn't matter, we owed the guy for the site, blah blah - 18/09/2010 06:10:07 AM 668 Views
Was it you who came up with that exporting software? Worked fine for me, once I figured it out. - 18/09/2010 10:54:11 AM 568 Views
I was the one to post the initial thread about it, yeah. - 18/09/2010 05:54:51 PM 675 Views
It worked for me, too, eventually. - 20/09/2010 01:46:54 PM 541 Views
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I saved all of mine - 20/09/2010 09:08:29 PM 564 Views
Same here, so thanks, Aemon! *NM* - 22/09/2010 05:31:23 AM 229 Views
Re: Yeah, I half agree. - 18/09/2010 11:21:07 AM 620 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 18/09/2010 12:31:47 PM 225 Views
Quite. I never considered him part of the community. Ever. - 20/09/2010 11:25:44 PM 608 Views
Yeah, he checked out and then was definitely phoning everything in at the end. - 20/09/2010 11:33:19 PM 536 Views
Agreed. - 21/09/2010 05:25:04 AM 572 Views
Instead, it was eaten by a Trolloc. *NM* - 18/09/2010 02:00:16 AM 240 Views
Aww *NM* - 18/09/2010 12:30:59 PM 231 Views
And it now goes to something called Argonaut Entertainment. *NM* - 29/09/2010 01:47:43 AM 231 Views
Interesting. - 29/09/2010 02:16:14 AM 572 Views
Weird. - 29/09/2010 02:38:43 AM 544 Views
Oh , awful. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:28:20 PM 235 Views
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand it's back now. - 10/10/2010 03:48:28 AM 515 Views
Re: Aaaaaaaaaaaaand it's back now. - 10/10/2010 07:07:03 PM 544 Views
If I offer to hug your sad panda - 10/10/2010 07:27:11 PM 776 Views
Tough question. It sounds dirtier the way you say it. *NM* - 10/10/2010 07:55:51 PM 235 Views

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