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Probably best. Joel Send a noteboard - 17/09/2010 01:19:33 AM
I see no reasonable artistic or educational purpose to this.

Agreed. I'm not sure I'm OK with banning it though; it's another of many entries in the every growing "this is horrifying, indefensible and perfectly legal" category. I'm more perplexed at this point; Adam voiced many of the same questions running through my mind when I read this:

One either agrees or disagrees with the belief that free speech extends to the obscene, I do not... and I'm discussing morality not legality in that context. I do not believe personally that banning something as prurient or obscene meaningfully limits freedom. Between the Bork and Hentoff views, I favor Bork. Whichever the case, I do believe and the law agrees that freedom of speech and expression can be curtailed on certain grounds and one of those is obscenity. In my opinion, this display is obscene.

Fair enough. In an age of moral relativism I'm very leery of predicating law on morality, because since we can't accept a universal moral standard anymore it simply raises the question of WHOSE morality? Not Gunther von Hagens, presumably.... ;)
1) When were the injected, post-mortem or pre?

Injected? Plastination involves first the normal embalming of the subject with formaldehyde, the subject is then placed into a vat of freezing acetone. Yes the process is strictly post-mortem, nothing would be gained by initiating it on a living subject.

I was unaware; that does clear up a lot, thanks.
2) If the former, does that mean he posed their corpses in a sexual position (double EEEW!)

Yes, they would have been dead and separate when he received the bodies. It is possible that since he is a doctor he may have been personally providing final care and only needed to perform the necessary paperwork and report on death appropriate to his legal area but I would assume they died separately and not of euthanasia, under standard care, or it would have been mentioned.

In other words he actually physically took a dead mans member, fresh from preservation, and inserted into a dead woma--*refuses to finish this thought*
3) If the latter, how must that have felt? Pro: I'm getting laid. Con: I'm being injected with a plasticizing agent that will solidify my body, because I'm also dying of cancer.

No, the subjects would not have assumed a sexual pose together then been injected like some sci-fi movie, they probably died at separate times in a hospital and were stored after embalming, they may or may not have been posed prior to acetone bath and impregnation, I would guess after, during the curing of the polymers, since it would not be necessary prior and would be a technical pain in the ass, as I understand the process.

Depending on where you sit, I doubt there were many pleasant aspects to this situation.
That's just off the top of my head.

I probably could have chosen a better closing line.... :<img class=' />
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Do I NEED to Tell You Which Country Gave Us "Screwing Corpses" As Art? - 16/09/2010 11:31:39 PM 832 Views
ewwww. *NM* - 16/09/2010 11:39:34 PM 153 Views
Agreed. - 17/09/2010 12:12:21 AM 417 Views
Disgusting at many levels - 16/09/2010 11:47:40 PM 353 Views
Yup. *NM* - 16/09/2010 11:52:58 PM 132 Views
"Reasonable" and "art" don't always mesh well. - 17/09/2010 12:11:42 AM 352 Views
I have a feeling that injecting when they were alive would be illegal *NM* - 17/09/2010 12:20:24 AM 161 Views
That makes sense, but I guess there are no non-creepy outcomes here. - 17/09/2010 12:30:59 AM 388 Views
as a he's a pathologist, he's no doubt dealt with worse. *NM* - 17/09/2010 12:50:54 AM 169 Views
Yes, but probably not just for the sake of simulated coitus. - 17/09/2010 01:00:31 AM 422 Views
I don't give art a grand pass on all things - 17/09/2010 01:06:01 AM 384 Views
Probably best. - 17/09/2010 01:19:33 AM 448 Views
The plastination is done after death. *NM* - 17/09/2010 06:34:06 AM 382 Views
I agree there should be some limits to art like there is everything else - 17/09/2010 12:22:52 PM 364 Views
I'm sure this article will be posted on the German forum I visit - 16/09/2010 11:50:38 PM 423 Views
Some of that may have been me... - 16/09/2010 11:59:50 PM 506 Views
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Curious What is the forum about? *NM* - 18/09/2010 12:23:33 PM 235 Views
Cannibalism and Scheiße porn. *NM* - 18/09/2010 06:19:50 PM 190 Views
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Von Hagens is a nutter *NM* - 18/09/2010 12:23:01 PM 200 Views

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