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I disagree Сталин Send a noteboard - 11/09/2009 04:09:50 PM
The point of competitive sports is to allow people to show that their talent, their drive and their spirit can conquer adversity. To allow Semenya to keep the gold medal does a disservice to every woman who participated in that event.

Semenya is a hermaphrodite, not a woman. If we are simply talking about social interaction and gender identity, Semenya can choose a gender and stay with it. If Semenya wants to identify as a woman, then "she" is free to do so regardless of biology. She can have further surgery if she feels it necessary.

However, we aren't talking about simple matters of gender identity. We are talking about (1) a birth condition that her parents were likely aware of, (2) a physiological advantage that is a disqualifying factor by the rules of the competition and (3) at least an inference that someone, somewhere knew or should have known that this might have been a factor yet chose to conceal it.

You can also write that as "Stalin" *MySmiley*
This message last edited by Сталин on 11/09/2009 at 04:10:35 PM
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Caster Semenya has male sex organs and no womb or ovaries - 11/09/2009 12:24:30 PM 1386 Views
I think revoking the championship and a ban at this point would be plain wrong - 11/09/2009 02:01:15 PM 755 Views
Well said. - 11/09/2009 02:10:31 PM 739 Views
agreed. *NM* - 11/09/2009 02:36:06 PM 387 Views
I agree. *NM* - 11/09/2009 03:20:05 PM 374 Views
I agree it's not her fault, but she shouldn't keep her championship. - 11/09/2009 03:50:06 PM 715 Views
Possibly a quibble, but just trying to clarify... - 11/09/2009 05:15:52 PM 814 Views
It makes sense - 13/09/2009 05:04:23 PM 760 Views
I disagree - 11/09/2009 04:09:50 PM 1079 Views
As bad as if feel for the athlete, I agree. *NM* - 11/09/2009 04:46:57 PM 352 Views
To the extent that LadyLorraine means "at this point", I do agree with her... - 11/09/2009 05:03:34 PM 807 Views
Sounds like she/he is more dude than chick..... - 11/09/2009 02:42:33 PM 807 Views
not really. it only takes ONE mistake to cause her problems. - 12/09/2009 03:19:06 AM 747 Views
It's not that simple with DNA either. - 12/09/2009 10:38:28 AM 842 Views
no it's not as simple as "XX" and "XY" - 12/09/2009 03:02:03 PM 772 Views
I think it is a sad story - 11/09/2009 04:34:29 PM 810 Views
I agree. - 11/09/2009 09:20:35 PM 848 Views
I like I said, tragic - 11/09/2009 09:34:57 PM 719 Views
I can't believe this whole thing is public - 11/09/2009 07:03:59 PM 844 Views
That's a good idea! - 11/09/2009 07:17:20 PM 745 Views
Yeah, seems fair. Medal, no record. - 11/09/2009 07:57:38 PM 696 Views
How could she not know something was different? Not developing a period would be a major sign. *NM* - 11/09/2009 09:21:54 PM 347 Views
Not necessarily, depending on the rigors of her athletic training. *NM* - 11/09/2009 09:26:32 PM 325 Views
When do most girls get their first period? Around 12 or 13? - 12/09/2009 07:34:23 AM 663 Views
Yes, but 14 or 15 isn't out of the ordinary *NM* - 12/09/2009 11:23:09 AM 344 Views
I didn't start until I was 17 *NM* - 12/09/2009 03:02:28 PM 326 Views
That is a bit unusual. *shrugs* *NM* - 13/09/2009 01:17:18 AM 337 Views
starting THAT late is, yes - 13/09/2009 04:24:44 AM 936 Views
There are plenty of runners who do hard training that keeps them from getting a regular period - 11/09/2009 09:29:24 PM 771 Views
I'd say so too. Periods have a lot to do with % body fat. - 12/09/2009 12:28:46 AM 858 Views
Not at the age when a girl first develops her period. - 12/09/2009 07:36:24 AM 753 Views
You have an odd understanding of what's normal... - 12/09/2009 02:51:37 PM 800 Views
And you are still missing the point. - 13/09/2009 01:18:54 AM 700 Views
And you're missing the point - 13/09/2009 01:39:46 AM 732 Views
What Sareitha said. - 13/09/2009 03:50:05 AM 888 Views
people develop 30lb tumors and never go to get them checked out - 11/09/2009 09:36:18 PM 787 Views
Well, now that you put it that way I guess I could see that. *NM* - 12/09/2009 07:37:18 AM 323 Views
Not that rare in athletes. - 12/09/2009 01:06:27 AM 692 Views
like i said in my first post - 12/09/2009 03:25:04 AM 770 Views
I like that idea. That is the most sensible solution. *NM* - 12/09/2009 01:07:42 AM 309 Views
This whole thing has been handled disgracefully - 12/09/2009 12:37:35 PM 878 Views
Considering that similar questions have arisen before - 13/09/2009 01:43:18 AM 916 Views

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