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it's less that people shouldn't expect privacy behind a fence... LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 25/08/2010 04:35:28 PM
and more that people should expect privacy despite the lack of fence. If you make the distinction that someone with a fence can't have their home invaded by the police, but if they magically didn't have a fence it would be okay, how is that right? A driveway is RIGHT BY a person's home and sleeping quarters. Would the courts also rule against someone who thought someone was trying to rob the and assaulted the individual...only to find out it was an officer?

A driveway is private or it is not. Even if you have to cross a fence to get TO the driveway, there is not typically a fence between the house and the drive. Once you're to the drive, the "privacy" is typically the same.
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1984 at last...Very Disturbing Ryan - 25/08/2010 04:08:04 PM 1482 Views
what a stupid decision... LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 04:16:49 PM 883 Views
Re: what a stupid decision... Ryan - 25/08/2010 04:23:26 PM 1037 Views
You don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your driveway random thoughts - 25/08/2010 04:32:08 PM 912 Views
the police aren't snapping pictures. LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 04:36:32 PM 865 Views
oddly enough you can dance naked in front of the window random thoughts - 25/08/2010 05:01:33 PM 907 Views
yah, i know there are instances like that LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:15:59 PM 884 Views
How is it really that much different then following in car or helicopter? random thoughts - 25/08/2010 04:27:28 PM 967 Views
it's less that people shouldn't expect privacy behind a fence... LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 04:35:28 PM 846 Views
it's about 4th and 5th amendment, imho moondog - 26/08/2010 03:00:01 AM 985 Views
and how is it different from police hiding a GPS tracker in my coat? Or is that OK too? *NM* Aeryn - 26/08/2010 05:12:30 AM 425 Views
It does seem wrong snoopcester - 25/08/2010 05:04:39 PM 912 Views
^ that's what i was trying to say LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:16:35 PM 1053 Views
When it comes to stuff like this I always same the same thing Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:09:01 PM 941 Views
true. but what if they only think you're breaking the law? LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:19:52 PM 844 Views
Well they would easily find out you weren't a drug dealer Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:25:40 PM 940 Views
wait, now i'm guilty until proven innocent? LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:32:42 PM 953 Views
most of those people deserved to be tasered *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2010 05:45:29 PM 418 Views
most of the old women and non-resisting people deserve to be tasered? *NM* LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 09:07:12 PM 409 Views
most of them are resiting they resisting random thoughts - 25/08/2010 09:13:29 PM 892 Views
but they aren't resisiting in a way that puts the officer in danger, i mean. LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 09:22:06 PM 943 Views
but effective random thoughts - 25/08/2010 09:55:30 PM 820 Views
yes nothing says "better than arguing" than ELECTROCUTING SOMEONE LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:14:55 PM 953 Views
any physical altercation is dangerous for a police officer random thoughts - 25/08/2010 11:30:07 PM 808 Views
you see plenty of videos where the person wasn't being aggressive, though. LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:46:43 PM 930 Views
Sorry but he needed to be tasered random thoughts - 26/08/2010 02:57:19 AM 946 Views
well we're getting a little off topic here and going to a sidebar soon.. LadyLorraine - 26/08/2010 03:36:43 AM 858 Views
And when someone dies because they get electrocuted? Ryan - 26/08/2010 06:52:13 AM 1103 Views
all the more reason to listen to a police officer if they point a taser at you *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2010 02:43:46 PM 399 Views
I believe Jefferson had a certain famous quote about that... *NM* Floffe - 25/08/2010 07:50:48 PM 435 Views
It was Franklin. Ghavrel - 25/08/2010 10:12:54 PM 952 Views
i do love that quote LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:17:11 PM 838 Views
They did. He says it in Congress and, if I recall correctly, Dickinson gets annoyed. Ghavrel - 25/08/2010 11:37:41 PM 790 Views
it's a lovely musical LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:47:29 PM 770 Views
Enforcers of the law are not supposed to be above it. Macharius - 25/08/2010 05:56:00 PM 854 Views
Re: Enforcers of the law are not supposed to be above it. Ryan - 26/08/2010 06:47:30 AM 992 Views
The law is not always just or correct. Legislators make mistakes and can be corrupt. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 25/08/2010 09:06:55 PM 408 Views
This feels like two separate issues to me. Sareitha Sedai - 25/08/2010 05:25:50 PM 1002 Views
even if they are not restricted, driveways are private property LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 05:34:00 PM 942 Views
I don't think that's true. Sareitha Sedai - 25/08/2010 05:55:26 PM 855 Views
you don't need permission to walk up someone's driveway until they have posted a no trespassing sign random thoughts - 25/08/2010 06:00:02 PM 932 Views
yes, and that's a relatively expected activity LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 07:24:54 PM 950 Views
Should a person without a garage be penalized Ryan - 25/08/2010 05:36:37 PM 1010 Views
They're not being penalized; it works in the other direction. Sareitha Sedai - 25/08/2010 05:59:59 PM 1054 Views
I think... Hezzah - 25/08/2010 09:47:51 PM 913 Views
Or you could go the other way, and say it's legal for them to put a GPS tracker on your house. Gher - 25/08/2010 10:30:32 PM 802 Views
I wouldn't mind a GPS tracker on my house LadyLorraine - 25/08/2010 11:16:10 PM 840 Views
They need a fucking warrant. End of story. Fuckers *NM* Dan - 26/08/2010 12:13:04 AM 406 Views
ummmm.... damookster - 26/08/2010 03:35:30 AM 894 Views
I do believe that would require a warrant though *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2010 04:57:36 AM 349 Views
The GPS in a phone being on will show up, though Floffe - 01/09/2010 12:36:13 PM 830 Views
I have 3 words for you... Bramhodoulos - 27/08/2010 01:59:13 PM 1113 Views
I have one word horseshit *NM* random thoughts - 27/08/2010 06:18:33 PM 405 Views
right damookster - 27/08/2010 10:19:53 PM 929 Views
*shrug* Old news, really. Joel - 02/09/2010 02:50:00 PM 888 Views
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