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I still do not see how you think marriage is a "pointless" institution LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 08/08/2010 08:05:45 PM
There are many benefits that are granted by a legal marriage, such as legal rights between the individuals, tax benefits and insurance benefits. All of those instances require a legal marriage (or extensive paperwork can be filed in some cases), which requires an actual marriage along with marriage paperwork as many states also do not recognize "Common Law" marriages.

Are you sure the pointless institution you are referring to is not actually called a "Wedding"?
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Let's ban all Christian Marriage. Dannymac - 07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM 1616 Views
Nice satire, but it raises another point for me. Helene - 07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM 1021 Views
One small problem... Phelix - 07/08/2010 08:02:34 AM 1039 Views
Re tax. Rebekah - 07/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 1085 Views
That seems sensible to me. SilverWarder - 09/08/2010 08:13:26 PM 933 Views
Not sure what you mean by "demoted." Dannymac - 07/08/2010 03:50:02 PM 1078 Views
Nice. *NM* Camilla - 07/08/2010 08:58:20 AM 607 Views
That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people. Cannoli - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM 1253 Views
Hey, look! There was a point over there! Dannymac - 07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM 1067 Views
Who else should make those decisions? Cannoli - 07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM 1006 Views
I'd totally... Ectheledhel - 08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM 964 Views
I'd totally... ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM 1123 Views
You'd defend this idiot? *NM* Ectheledhel - 08/08/2010 06:40:34 AM 500 Views
Indeed ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 1057 Views
I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering. everynametaken - 08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM 1054 Views
And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged Cannoli - 08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM 963 Views
Um, ok. *NM* everynametaken - 10/08/2010 12:48:19 AM 501 Views
*Shakes Head* Dannymac - 08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM 924 Views
I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM* ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM 532 Views
Perhaps not in the physical sense. Great Lord of Chaos - 08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM 1024 Views
Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense. ßelals Girl - 08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM 992 Views
Gah! You did that on purpose! Vodalus - 09/08/2010 01:05:13 AM 943 Views
whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 09/08/2010 02:22:49 AM 454 Views
Re: *Shakes Head* Cannoli - 08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM 977 Views
I still do not see how you think marriage is a "pointless" institution LadyLorraine - 08/08/2010 08:05:45 PM 1075 Views
No, I was referring to same-sex marriage. Real marriage hardly counts as a novelty. *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 02:28:43 PM 442 Views
This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about. Dannymac - 08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM 922 Views
You cannot be that stupid. Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM 1202 Views
There's a lot of ridiculous arguments here, but I'll focus on just one of them... Legolas - 11/08/2010 03:38:05 PM 1075 Views
Incorrect. Genders are not treated equally. Dreaded Anomaly - 11/08/2010 07:53:00 PM 1305 Views
all you need is enough support to pass an amendment random thoughts - 08/08/2010 02:46:08 PM 909 Views
A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too Isaac - 08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM 949 Views
And what is wrong with polygamy? *NM* Ectheledhel - 09/08/2010 10:36:53 AM 504 Views
Did I say there was anything? Isaac - 09/08/2010 11:03:10 AM 1068 Views
Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad. Camilla - 09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM 988 Views
Is that assumption valid? Isaac - 09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM 935 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? Camilla - 09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM 924 Views
Re: Is that assumption valid? Isaac - 09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM 1037 Views
Not really snoopcester - 09/08/2010 01:20:46 PM 896 Views
Re: Not really Isaac - 09/08/2010 01:27:04 PM 1027 Views
Re: Not really snoopcester - 09/08/2010 02:14:43 PM 894 Views
Re: Not really Isaac - 09/08/2010 03:06:31 PM 1047 Views
Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives. Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM 1069 Views
... Camilla - 11/08/2010 03:22:50 PM 942 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too snoopcester - 09/08/2010 11:25:39 AM 971 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too Isaac - 09/08/2010 11:51:50 AM 909 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too snoopcester - 09/08/2010 01:18:35 PM 1015 Views
Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too Isaac - 09/08/2010 02:54:19 PM 1032 Views
Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage LadyLorraine - 09/08/2010 06:13:30 PM 1077 Views
Re: Mmm, but when you're strictly discussing marriage Isaac - 10/08/2010 01:24:06 AM 884 Views
Now I think about it, I'm not sure. Dannymac - 10/08/2010 04:09:43 PM 1008 Views
Re: Now I think about it, I'm not sure. Isaac - 10/08/2010 06:12:39 PM 889 Views
Great post Danny SilverWarder - 09/08/2010 08:22:27 PM 767 Views
It should be noted again... Jeordam - 09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM 1060 Views
and how is it not a right? LadyLorraine - 09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM 934 Views
My definition of rights... Jeordam - 09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM 1058 Views
mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right. LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM 818 Views
+1 Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 03:11:22 AM 1091 Views
Article 16 probably not a great example Isaac - 10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM 915 Views
You could just as easily move the emphasis... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM 1042 Views
If we need a more specific resolution... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM 1215 Views
No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context Isaac - 10/08/2010 05:25:57 AM 911 Views
Re: No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 03:04:39 PM 1228 Views
That's really a ridiculous stance, you do realize. Legolas - 10/08/2010 03:23:02 PM 873 Views
The point is that marriage IS a right, one which cannot be denied based upon sexual orientation *NM* Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 07:04:16 PM 701 Views
Re: No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context Isaac - 10/08/2010 03:46:56 PM 1104 Views
It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM 908 Views
It also doesn't say they can Isaac - 10/08/2010 04:41:18 AM 918 Views
You're missing the point. It's not about gay marriage. Legolas - 10/08/2010 11:20:59 AM 915 Views
No, I got that, I'm pointing out how it does so Isaac - 10/08/2010 01:47:00 PM 933 Views
I know, and that's been brought up before. But that's not my point. LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 06:09:32 PM 907 Views
Re: I know, and that's been brought up before. But that's not my point. Isaac - 10/08/2010 06:33:56 PM 840 Views
It's mentioned as a right in some SC decision quoted in that Walker opinion. *NM* Legolas - 10/08/2010 06:51:13 PM 452 Views
To clarify for you SilverWarder - 10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM 844 Views
The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM 1283 Views
I'm not sure that I would call the Security Council the 'Enforcement Body' SilverWarder - 10/08/2010 08:43:02 PM 881 Views
The fact that it is capable of authorizing the use of military force makes it an enforcement body Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 10:33:59 PM 1151 Views
Disagree - but it's most a matter of definition there SilverWarder - 11/08/2010 04:31:53 PM 1060 Views
What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless.... Jeordam - 10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM 856 Views
and the Constitution dictates nothing about marriage. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 11:46:24 PM 481 Views
That means it is up to the people. And they say "No." *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:13:12 PM 487 Views
No, but it does dictate things about rights and discrimination SilverWarder - 12/08/2010 03:48:02 PM 1101 Views
Why don't YOU back up your assertion that the right to marry exists? *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:16:02 PM 491 Views
The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM 988 Views
Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction... Vodalus - 10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM 1068 Views
I agree LadyLorraine - 10/08/2010 06:11:19 PM 791 Views
Yeah but this can't be used to prove that it IS a right... Napoleon62 - 10/08/2010 07:30:57 PM 1144 Views
Note it all you want... Dannymac - 10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM 782 Views
No, they seek to expand the terms of the partnership. Homosexuals can & do get married normally *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2010 03:14:25 PM 502 Views
The best one yet. Camilla - 10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM 1040 Views
Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane SilverWarder - 10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM 907 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane Camilla - 10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM 1017 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane SilverWarder - 11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM 904 Views
Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane Camilla - 11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM 1028 Views
Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel SilverWarder - 11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM 1014 Views
Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel Camilla - 11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM 981 Views
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