That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM
Marriage is not a right, it is never referred to as such in the Constitution. And now, as secular Americans outnumber believers, join me, sisters in brothers, in passing our law to ban the depraved practice of Christian Marriage from our fair state.
Christian marriage is normal marriage, except Christians in general are better at it than the rest of you. They tend to be more faithful to their marriage vows, report greater sexual satisfaction and tend to breed more. Though there are some among you who, of course, wish to make even the practice of Christianity a crime, such a law would never pass in todays society. They are people, after all, and they have rights, granted right there in the constitution. They are free to do whatever depraved things they wish with other Christians, so long as we don't have to see it.
Which IS the legal practice these days. The display of religious symbols, even if they are only being displayed for their historical significance, is prohibited. Opposition to ass-piracy is called a hate crime. Comedians on TV are cautious about mocking sodomites but have no problems taking shots at priests. Films & TV programs routinely feature and glorify secularists, atheistic scientists (as if such scientists have anywhere near the accomplishments of religious scientists), and fudgepackers or rugmunchers and their lifestyles. The only times a show is made featuring overtly religious people, it is restricted to children's programming & is a target of mockery and critical derision or else glorifies the religious characters' deviation from the norms of their claimed faith and the doctrines of their religion. Or they're Muslims. Your satirical proposal to restrict religion to closed doors and privacy would only be satirical if you were not fifty years behind the times, and not "proposing" what is already the status quo.
But there is no right to marriage, and so this should not be granted to them. We will pass our law defining marriage as a contract between two atheists. Allow them their social unions, if they must, but marriage is to be denied them.
No one has ever seriously proposed marriage to be limited to between Christians, or denies the rights of aetheists to marry. The proposed legislation regarding definitions of marriage all involves defining it as between a man and a woman. Regardless of their beliefs, practices or sexual orientation. Most priests and churches would probably permit aetheists to marry in their facilities if they like the decor or it was convenient for their families and friends to get to. I am sure many clerics would officiate at an aetheist wedding. My father's only wedding was a marriage of two secular people.Our reasons are simple. Christians teach Christianity to their children. And why would we want that? Christians are well known as teachers of intolerance, aggressors in wars, and destroyers of cultures. We have the "missions" to the Native Americans,
Yes, and teaching them the values of clothing, writing and buildings, children that mostly survive to age two, and growing a reliable food supply instead of finding it wild or on the hoof and starving when they can't. Do you want to call us destroyers of cultures? I say, "We are proud to be destroying these degenerate psuedo-cultures and rescuing the people these cultures keep one step above animals. We destroy human sacrifice and cannibalism and slavery and immolation of widows. You're welcome." It was the secular authorities who enslaved Indians or took their land, while priests were protesting and smuggling letters back to the religious authorities back home complaining about what the military authorities of their homelands were up to.
the snipers outside of abortion clinics,
Yeah, bullshit. As if that's happened even three times. Or is explicitly supported or taught by any mainstream christian denominations. a laundry list of wars that can be laid at their feet.
And yet you fail to provide one. The term refers to an exact enumeration, like the laundromat give you so you know why you are charged as you are. Prove this statement anyway. How many wars beside the Crusades have been initiated expressly for Christian-motivated goals? The fact that Christians have participated in wars for secular reasons does not make those wars Christian. Even the Thirty Years War involved long-standing issues of jurisdiction and authority for which the religious differences were an excuse. Absent religion, they'd have found another. Many claim the same thing about the Crusades, but even stipulating the religious motivations, they were defensive wars against Islamic invaders and conquerors, that has since turned the region that gave birth to civilization into a backwater wasteland, only of interest to the rest of the world because of the coincidental mineral resources which the higher technology of the Christian-founded world finds uses for. They even have a doctrine all their own which they go so far as to insist should be obeyed above even the laws of the lands, making them ideal seditionists.
Damn right!Without the taint of Christian Marriage incorporating strange customs, odd dress, and weird words into what is a government approved socio-economic partnership, we will gain a cessation to their endless cries of judgment and intolerance, and will know that the children will be raised without such horrible influences. True, some children may yet be raised by Christians, but they will do so in the knowledge that their parents are not in full compliance with their own teachings, and so shall this great aggressor and oppressor of peoples finally be confined, so that those who follow its depraved ways will harm no one except each other.
As if that hasn't been tried before.Ignore the cries of those who claim that selecting a certain lifestyle preference for exclusion from what to others is a basic socio-economic institution raises a dangerous precedent. We are the people of the United States of America and we live in a democracy, and we have learned well to fear the teachings of Christ and those who follow him. We will pass this law, and decry any who stand in our way as anti-democratic activists.
It is the will of the people that matters. Right?
Since when? It is the teaching of Christ that says people without power even have any value. The universally-agreed worst religious people in the contemporary world are those priests who abjure or ignore the teachings of their religion - and engage in homosexual behavior.
It is the will of the people that matters. Right?
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
Let's ban all Christian Marriage.
07/08/2010 06:36:13 AM
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Nice satire, but it raises another point for me.
07/08/2010 07:20:49 AM
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That would only be appropriate if Christians wanted to ban secular unions of normal people.
07/08/2010 11:51:29 AM
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Hey, look! There was a point over there!
07/08/2010 03:46:41 PM
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Who else should make those decisions?
07/08/2010 08:00:39 PM
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I'd totally...
08/08/2010 04:14:15 AM
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I'd totally...
08/08/2010 06:17:30 AM
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I used to think Joel was the biggest rambler on this site. I am seriously reconsidering.
08/08/2010 05:24:56 AM
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And my assessment of one poster as the most content-poor, non-contributing slug is unchanged
08/08/2010 07:17:02 PM
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*Shakes Head*
08/08/2010 06:23:47 AM
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I highly doubt Cannoli is "scared" of homosexuals *NM*
08/08/2010 06:29:54 AM
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Perhaps not in the physical sense.
08/08/2010 06:35:53 AM
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Re: Perhaps not in the physical sense.
08/08/2010 06:46:56 AM
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Re: *Shakes Head*
08/08/2010 07:43:11 PM
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I still do not see how you think marriage is a "pointless" institution
08/08/2010 08:05:45 PM
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No, I was referring to same-sex marriage. Real marriage hardly counts as a novelty. *NM*
11/08/2010 02:28:43 PM
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This must be the "thought out reaction" I've heard so much about.
08/08/2010 10:45:59 PM
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You cannot be that stupid.
11/08/2010 03:10:55 PM
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There's a lot of ridiculous arguments here, but I'll focus on just one of them...
11/08/2010 03:38:05 PM
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A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too
08/08/2010 11:51:24 PM
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Plolygamy and incest are not on the same level of bad.
09/08/2010 11:00:07 AM
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Is that assumption valid?
09/08/2010 11:36:26 AM
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Re: Is that assumption valid?
09/08/2010 11:46:42 AM
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Re: Is that assumption valid?
09/08/2010 12:07:22 PM
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Spoken like someone who does not have to insure an employee's six wives.
11/08/2010 03:11:57 PM
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Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too
09/08/2010 11:25:39 AM
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Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too
09/08/2010 11:51:50 AM
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Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too
09/08/2010 01:18:35 PM
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Re: A lot of the arguments would seem to justify polygamy and incest too
09/08/2010 02:54:19 PM
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It should be noted again...
09/08/2010 08:59:32 PM
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and how is it not a right?
09/08/2010 09:19:12 PM
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My definition of rights...
09/08/2010 10:47:16 PM
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mmm, but the UN has legally stated marriage as a right.
10/08/2010 02:52:03 AM
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Article 16 probably not a great example
10/08/2010 03:44:04 AM
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You could just as easily move the emphasis...
10/08/2010 04:08:46 AM
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If we need a more specific resolution...
10/08/2010 04:22:12 AM
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No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context
10/08/2010 05:25:57 AM
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Re: No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context
10/08/2010 03:04:39 PM
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That's really a ridiculous stance, you do realize.
10/08/2010 03:23:02 PM
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The point is that marriage IS a right, one which cannot be denied based upon sexual orientation *NM*
10/08/2010 07:04:16 PM
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Re: No, the choice of 'Men and Women' is too specific in the context
10/08/2010 03:46:56 PM
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It doesn't say a man can only marry a woman or vice versa, though.
10/08/2010 04:24:17 AM
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I know, and that's been brought up before. But that's not my point.
10/08/2010 06:09:32 PM
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Re: I know, and that's been brought up before. But that's not my point.
10/08/2010 06:33:56 PM
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It's mentioned as a right in some SC decision quoted in that Walker opinion. *NM*
10/08/2010 06:51:13 PM
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To clarify for you
10/08/2010 05:36:14 AM
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The UNSC is actually the UN's enforcement body...
10/08/2010 07:16:31 PM
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I'm not sure that I would call the Security Council the 'Enforcement Body'
10/08/2010 08:43:02 PM
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The fact that it is capable of authorizing the use of military force makes it an enforcement body
10/08/2010 10:33:59 PM
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What the UN thinks is *completely* worthless....
10/08/2010 06:43:15 PM
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Why don't YOU back up your assertion that the right to marry exists? *NM*
11/08/2010 03:16:02 PM
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The actual ruling on Prop 8 specifices marriage as a freedom, not a right.
10/08/2010 12:02:17 AM
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Out of curiosity, what would you say to using the Ninth Amendment, possibly in conjunction...
10/08/2010 12:20:19 AM
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Note it all you want...
10/08/2010 06:43:53 AM
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No, they seek to expand the terms of the partnership. Homosexuals can & do get married normally *NM*
11/08/2010 03:14:25 PM
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The best one yet.
10/08/2010 07:59:17 PM
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Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane
10/08/2010 08:49:24 PM
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Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane
10/08/2010 09:03:11 PM
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Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane
11/08/2010 04:35:03 PM
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Re: Yeah, I'd agree that's pretty insane
11/08/2010 04:41:23 PM
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Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel
11/08/2010 05:06:47 PM
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Re: Hmm - been a long time since I read my copy of the graphic novel
11/08/2010 05:09:23 PM
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