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You might want to look up passive-aggressive. nossy Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 05:32:07 PM

I've never been in favor of divorce, and I have not now nor have ever stated that I support so-called frivolous marriages. In fact, I've come out her against both divorce and allowing just anyone anytime to be married, because I do not (and no one else does) view it as a RIGHT, but a privilege. But that's beside the point. Marriage is not a right, regardless of my views of it.

It is a right, regardless of your views on it. The government cannot tell two heteros that they cannot marry, unless there is some legal reason. And as it is the purpose of a modern, civil government to ensure that subsets of its people are not being forbidden things unjustly, the laws will eventually change. *shrug*

If you're talking about Catholic marriage, then yes, you are correct that it is not a right. But I have news for you-- infidels are getting married left and right, dear. You're losing the high ground on which ones you can forbid which things (legally speaking).

It changes the traditional definition of marriage, which is between a man and a woman. So how is marriage not being changed?

Changes the religious definition of marriage, which is not the same thing as what the legal definition will shape up to be. But again, we won't agree, so we really don't need to keep harping on it.

And you can talk all you like about not being "rude" but your passive aggressive language betrays your true intent.

Kiddo, it's not passive aggressive at all to tell someone that while you don't intend to be rude, you will be honest about your true feelings. I told you exactly what I think, and I'm sorry if that puts you in an uncomfortable position with me. I wasn't going to lie, however.
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Marriage is not now, nor has it ever been a "right". *NM* Dragonsoul - 16/07/2010 12:41:21 AM 288 Views
you just really want someone to get into this with you, don't you? nossy - 16/07/2010 01:14:16 AM 737 Views
Well it's true. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2010 05:15:02 AM 699 Views
I realize it would be polite of me to answer that nossy - 16/07/2010 02:50:30 PM 662 Views
Re: I realize it would be polite of me to answer that Dragonsoul - 16/07/2010 03:50:41 PM 713 Views
You might want to look up passive-aggressive. nossy - 16/07/2010 05:32:07 PM 792 Views
You mean you don't have a right to get married? *NM* Helene - 16/07/2010 02:50:46 PM 294 Views
No you don't. In fact... Dragonsoul - 16/07/2010 03:52:29 PM 720 Views
WRONG!!! Roland00 - 16/07/2010 11:16:58 PM 726 Views
Nothing about homosexuals having the "right" to marry and have a family. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2010 11:20:03 PM 718 Views
You have a right to get married Roland00 - 16/07/2010 11:23:51 PM 709 Views
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That isn't relevant snoopcester - 16/07/2010 04:17:32 PM 820 Views
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you keep claiming that. Shouldn't you be able to prove you are right first? snoopcester - 16/07/2010 05:29:43 PM 696 Views
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lol. *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/07/2010 07:12:16 PM 285 Views
Have you been drinking? Dragonsoul - 16/07/2010 11:18:43 PM 697 Views
it doesn't have to mention them specifically, they have been granted ALL the rights/freedoms listed LadyLorraine - 16/07/2010 11:36:47 PM 674 Views
Are you on drugs or just stupid? 'Marriage is not now, nor has it ever been a "right".' snoopcester - 17/07/2010 12:09:23 AM 693 Views
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You should have expected it snoopcester - 17/07/2010 12:12:29 AM 753 Views
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neither are many things protected by law. LadyLorraine - 16/07/2010 06:03:03 PM 743 Views
Lex Luthor says you are .... Roland00 - 16/07/2010 11:20:50 PM 846 Views
Marriage has been a "left" then? Roland00 - 16/07/2010 04:13:54 AM 704 Views
Haha that and you probably get a discount on your next one *NM* Dragonsoul - 16/07/2010 05:15:28 AM 335 Views
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good news ponder stibbons - 16/07/2010 11:48:01 PM 724 Views
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