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Really? MalkierKnight Send a noteboard - 01/07/2010 08:07:29 AM
...I'm glad for you that you live in a town with such good public transport, but you need to remember that most of us don't.


I'm starting to wonder where it is you live that is a city that has no parking, no public transportation, a bus that comes once and hour, and busy roads that make cycling dangerous.

Sounds like made up land to me. At least part of it.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
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I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Deadsy - 28/06/2010 05:44:45 AM 1735 Views
Ummm MalkierKnight - 28/06/2010 06:01:19 AM 1357 Views
Let me guess. You live in an American suburb. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2010 06:12:24 AM 578 Views
Yeah, the "sport" part gives that away even more than everything else... *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 08:06:03 AM 594 Views
seriously, you think people didn't use bikes as transportation anymore!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 08:26:36 AM 668 Views
LOL bikes? transportation? What?!??! get a car you european *NM* MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:14:58 AM 544 Views
Sorry, but no. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:17:20 AM 1163 Views
I think you missed the part... LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:22:35 AM 1109 Views
That was offensive to cyclists. People who think like you are why so many of us die. *NM* Tim - 28/06/2010 08:28:24 AM 660 Views
Now that I've calmed down a bit, I'm going to actually address your points. Tim - 28/06/2010 12:16:10 PM 1486 Views
hey now! LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:18:16 PM 1009 Views
See apology below. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:34:17 AM 595 Views
it's okay dude i was just giving you a hard time *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:24:56 AM 587 Views
I understand that what he said offended you ßelals Girl - 28/06/2010 04:11:57 PM 1249 Views
You're right, I was stereotyping and getting a little ad hominem. I'm sorry. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:33:20 AM 636 Views
My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Aemon - 28/06/2010 04:12:42 PM 1113 Views
Re: My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:27:42 PM 1151 Views
If the bike had been invented today, you might be right. Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:08:44 PM 1234 Views
This point: Rebekah - 28/06/2010 06:37:32 PM 1222 Views
Not in the United States. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:25:56 PM 1208 Views
Highways are, of course, a different matter. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 07:32:50 PM 1161 Views
I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:34:04 PM 1266 Views
Re: I know Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:27:04 PM 1158 Views
Re: I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:38:14 PM 1260 Views
That makes me mad. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:46:58 PM 1237 Views
Don't be mad Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:52:47 PM 1070 Views
Re: I know lyringlas - 28/06/2010 09:15:22 PM 1228 Views
To your last question: Arlington County, VA MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:29:55 AM 1043 Views
It is illegal to drive on the shoulder. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:43:40 AM 1237 Views
i'm pretty sure bicycles are banned from almost all highways, regardless of access LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:34:00 PM 1034 Views
Maybe I should have said "modern roads." Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:20:55 PM 1218 Views
Perhaps. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:36:15 PM 1266 Views
I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Aemon - 28/06/2010 09:00:44 PM 1050 Views
Matters of degree, I suppose. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 09:07:40 PM 1051 Views
Yes, because that cyclist is SUCH a hazard to you in your car. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:03:05 AM 1189 Views
The central issue is people. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:52:22 AM 1178 Views
you keep talking about cyclists on highways as if it applied to all roads. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:37:31 PM 1238 Views
There are TWO equally important points there: Joel - 30/06/2010 01:15:17 AM 1234 Views
then why are you arguing with me? I said that the central issue is people being stupid. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 05:59:23 AM 597 Views
Pardon my saying so, but, no, you did not say that. Joel - 01/07/2010 08:01:10 AM 1195 Views
Re: I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Bored - 02/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1193 Views
Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:32:05 AM 1198 Views
...doesn't exist or is completely dysfunctional in a lot of places. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/06/2010 03:57:26 AM 620 Views
three words: share the road random thoughts - 30/06/2010 04:08:28 AM 1229 Views
Re: three words: share the road MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:03:54 AM 1276 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 30/06/2010 08:43:51 AM 1370 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:05:37 AM 1209 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:40:10 AM 1149 Views
How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Deadsy - 01/07/2010 08:52:45 AM 1221 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:30:43 AM 1163 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 1243 Views
I'd say you have it exactly the wrong way round. Legolas - 01/07/2010 09:41:27 AM 1302 Views
You can't be serious. If you do think that's always (not just sometimes) a viable option, then... Tim - 30/06/2010 09:20:03 AM 1130 Views
Really? MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:07:29 AM 967 Views
Have you heard of Britain? Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:38:11 AM 1189 Views
My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 06:00:22 AM 655 Views
Re: My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:08:02 AM 1175 Views
Outside of a highly urbanized area, I surmise. The entirety of the US is not like the East Coast. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/07/2010 02:11:01 AM 653 Views
My city doesn't have anything eather. *NM* Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:32:52 AM 751 Views
You do realize that... Jacob - 28/06/2010 08:38:39 PM 1190 Views
Bikers can be equally as rude, I agree. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:00:18 AM 1197 Views
heh Deadsy - 29/06/2010 04:45:46 AM 1172 Views
Despite your subject line, I'm glad to see that we agree with each other more than MK and I do. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:13:29 AM 1282 Views
Get your head on straight, you silly cyclist MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:02:58 AM 1070 Views
He never said there were no buses in our city. He said that, as a student, he can't afford them. *NM* Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:42:47 AM 606 Views
I'd say most urban areas have few roads with speed limits above 50 km/h (30mph) Floffe - 01/07/2010 10:35:20 AM 1107 Views
Now now, there's no need to be rude. Tim - 02/07/2010 12:04:16 AM 1275 Views
Re: Now now, there's no need to be rude. MalkierKnight - 04/07/2010 05:53:01 PM 1058 Views
What part of "there are no alternatives" don't you understand? Ghavrel - 04/07/2010 09:10:23 PM 1129 Views
What part of my post did you not read...? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:01:32 AM 1297 Views
I agree entirely. Camilla - 28/06/2010 05:27:36 PM 1310 Views
Really???? Amys - 28/06/2010 04:59:12 PM 1190 Views
that's always really annoying LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:27:07 AM 1346 Views
That's always upsetting. You just have to remember that some people are simply arseholes, and... Tim - 28/06/2010 11:41:22 AM 1100 Views
mmm maybe...or encourage him to actually hit the next cyclist LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:19:10 PM 1066 Views
Re: I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Macharius - 28/06/2010 03:25:22 PM 1006 Views
Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 04:58:50 PM 557 Views
I doubt it. *NM* Macharius - 28/06/2010 05:32:17 PM 502 Views
my daughter rides her bike on the sidewalk all the time random thoughts - 28/06/2010 06:07:01 PM 1169 Views
In Sweden we often have combined bike and walking paths a few meters to the side of the road Floffe - 28/06/2010 06:22:40 PM 1062 Views
True, those aren't really what I'd call sidewalks though. *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:07:15 PM 677 Views
Not sure, but BlackAdder - 28/06/2010 06:53:14 PM 1061 Views
That all depends on what kind of road, I guess. Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:09:52 PM 1193 Views
we actually have a lot of cyclists on one of our 50mph roads LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:08:31 AM 1088 Views
I would Deadsy - 28/06/2010 07:25:22 PM 1073 Views
You've alluded to that a few times now. Sareitha Sedai - 28/06/2010 07:42:05 PM 1052 Views
a lot of the time they do in smaller cities LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:05:38 AM 975 Views
Of course. Most bikers not in the mid-size to larger cities do. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:06:03 AM 1035 Views
Re: Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? Bored - 02/07/2010 09:57:46 PM 1066 Views
That sucks random thoughts - 28/06/2010 04:34:35 PM 1010 Views
You have every right to be on the road. The guy was an ass. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:30:23 PM 1133 Views
Thankfully I live in a very bike-friendly city, though this sort of thing has still happened to me. *NM* Panorphaeon - 28/06/2010 07:56:59 PM 630 Views
that's because the central issues is not bike-friendly-ness. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:11:56 AM 1046 Views
I'm so glad I actually READ what you said before responding. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:16:25 AM 1198 Views
?? I thought it was matter of COURSE that bikes weren't allowed on the highway LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:27:06 AM 1139 Views
Should be, but it's not. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:59:35 AM 1141 Views
Question for you. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:22:13 AM 985 Views
the law says they have to to ride in single file as close to curb as is practical random thoughts - 29/06/2010 03:31:55 PM 1052 Views
and i haven't said that anywhere. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:39:06 PM 1022 Views
That is what you get for living in Austin *NM* random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:38:20 PM 622 Views
about the driving on the shoulder thing random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:49:29 PM 1230 Views
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