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that's because the central issues is not bike-friendly-ness. LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 29/06/2010 01:11:56 AM
It comes down to the obedience of the law and awareness (on both sides' parts). The problem is drivers like to be gleefully unaware that anyone would DARE ride in THEIR road. Even us moped-riders (going the freakin' speed limit) get yelled, honked and cursed at.

Luckily I have upgraded my moped and can now move plenty fast. They'll still try to wiz around me and invade my lane, if I drive "too slow" though. Because cars make people jackasses.
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I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Deadsy - 28/06/2010 05:44:45 AM 1689 Views
Ummm MalkierKnight - 28/06/2010 06:01:19 AM 1307 Views
Let me guess. You live in an American suburb. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2010 06:12:24 AM 558 Views
Yeah, the "sport" part gives that away even more than everything else... *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 08:06:03 AM 571 Views
seriously, you think people didn't use bikes as transportation anymore!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 08:26:36 AM 653 Views
LOL bikes? transportation? What?!??! get a car you european *NM* MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:14:58 AM 523 Views
Sorry, but no. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:17:20 AM 1114 Views
I think you missed the part... LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:22:35 AM 1061 Views
That was offensive to cyclists. People who think like you are why so many of us die. *NM* Tim - 28/06/2010 08:28:24 AM 637 Views
Now that I've calmed down a bit, I'm going to actually address your points. Tim - 28/06/2010 12:16:10 PM 1429 Views
hey now! LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:18:16 PM 967 Views
See apology below. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:34:17 AM 577 Views
it's okay dude i was just giving you a hard time *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:24:56 AM 563 Views
I understand that what he said offended you ßelals Girl - 28/06/2010 04:11:57 PM 1190 Views
You're right, I was stereotyping and getting a little ad hominem. I'm sorry. *NM* Tim - 29/06/2010 08:33:20 AM 612 Views
My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Aemon - 28/06/2010 04:12:42 PM 1062 Views
Re: My social capital at this site is pretty low, so I don't mind admitting that I agree with MK. Deadsy - 28/06/2010 06:27:42 PM 1107 Views
If the bike had been invented today, you might be right. Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:08:44 PM 1185 Views
This point: Rebekah - 28/06/2010 06:37:32 PM 1174 Views
Not in the United States. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:25:56 PM 1165 Views
Highways are, of course, a different matter. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 07:32:50 PM 1120 Views
I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:34:04 PM 1223 Views
Re: I know Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:27:04 PM 1082 Views
Re: I know Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:38:14 PM 1209 Views
That makes me mad. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:46:58 PM 1190 Views
Don't be mad Avendesora - 28/06/2010 08:52:47 PM 1028 Views
Re: I know lyringlas - 28/06/2010 09:15:22 PM 1174 Views
To your last question: Arlington County, VA MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:29:55 AM 997 Views
It is illegal to drive on the shoulder. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:43:40 AM 1198 Views
i'm pretty sure bicycles are banned from almost all highways, regardless of access LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:34:00 PM 989 Views
Maybe I should have said "modern roads." Aemon - 28/06/2010 08:20:55 PM 1172 Views
Perhaps. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 08:36:15 PM 1224 Views
I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Aemon - 28/06/2010 09:00:44 PM 1000 Views
Matters of degree, I suppose. Rebekah - 28/06/2010 09:07:40 PM 1003 Views
Yes, because that cyclist is SUCH a hazard to you in your car. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:03:05 AM 1145 Views
The central issue is people. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:52:22 AM 1130 Views
you keep talking about cyclists on highways as if it applied to all roads. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:37:31 PM 1187 Views
There are TWO equally important points there: Joel - 30/06/2010 01:15:17 AM 1188 Views
then why are you arguing with me? I said that the central issue is people being stupid. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 05:59:23 AM 582 Views
Pardon my saying so, but, no, you did not say that. Joel - 01/07/2010 08:01:10 AM 1150 Views
Re: I think we just disagree on the necessity is all. Bored - 02/07/2010 09:19:13 PM 1141 Views
Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 30/06/2010 03:32:05 AM 1154 Views
...doesn't exist or is completely dysfunctional in a lot of places. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/06/2010 03:57:26 AM 597 Views
three words: share the road random thoughts - 30/06/2010 04:08:28 AM 1176 Views
Re: three words: share the road MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:03:54 AM 1232 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 30/06/2010 08:43:51 AM 1330 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:05:37 AM 1160 Views
Re: Two words: Public Transportation Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:40:10 AM 1107 Views
How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Deadsy - 01/07/2010 08:52:45 AM 1174 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:30:43 AM 1118 Views
Re: How the hell is a 7,000 person town Urban? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:03:03 AM 1190 Views
I'd say you have it exactly the wrong way round. Legolas - 01/07/2010 09:41:27 AM 1245 Views
You can't be serious. If you do think that's always (not just sometimes) a viable option, then... Tim - 30/06/2010 09:20:03 AM 1100 Views
Really? MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:07:29 AM 918 Views
Have you heard of Britain? Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:38:11 AM 1149 Views
My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/07/2010 06:00:22 AM 636 Views
Re: My city doesn't have ANY. not even shuttle buses. MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:08:02 AM 1136 Views
Outside of a highly urbanized area, I surmise. The entirety of the US is not like the East Coast. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/07/2010 02:11:01 AM 636 Views
My city doesn't have anything eather. *NM* Angel Barchild - 04/07/2010 12:32:52 AM 728 Views
You do realize that... Jacob - 28/06/2010 08:38:39 PM 1142 Views
Bikers can be equally as rude, I agree. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:00:18 AM 1155 Views
heh Deadsy - 29/06/2010 04:45:46 AM 1115 Views
Despite your subject line, I'm glad to see that we agree with each other more than MK and I do. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:13:29 AM 1219 Views
Get your head on straight, you silly cyclist MalkierKnight - 01/07/2010 08:02:58 AM 1014 Views
He never said there were no buses in our city. He said that, as a student, he can't afford them. *NM* Rebekah - 01/07/2010 08:42:47 AM 590 Views
I'd say most urban areas have few roads with speed limits above 50 km/h (30mph) Floffe - 01/07/2010 10:35:20 AM 1063 Views
Now now, there's no need to be rude. Tim - 02/07/2010 12:04:16 AM 1233 Views
Re: Now now, there's no need to be rude. MalkierKnight - 04/07/2010 05:53:01 PM 1010 Views
What part of "there are no alternatives" don't you understand? Ghavrel - 04/07/2010 09:10:23 PM 1087 Views
What part of my post did you not read...? MalkierKnight - 05/07/2010 09:01:32 AM 1251 Views
I agree entirely. Camilla - 28/06/2010 05:27:36 PM 1261 Views
Really???? Amys - 28/06/2010 04:59:12 PM 1141 Views
that's always really annoying LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 06:27:07 AM 1289 Views
That's always upsetting. You just have to remember that some people are simply arseholes, and... Tim - 28/06/2010 11:41:22 AM 1051 Views
mmm maybe...or encourage him to actually hit the next cyclist LadyLorraine - 28/06/2010 01:19:10 PM 1018 Views
Re: I got screamed at by a motorist while riding my bicycle today Macharius - 28/06/2010 03:25:22 PM 970 Views
Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 04:58:50 PM 536 Views
I doubt it. *NM* Macharius - 28/06/2010 05:32:17 PM 484 Views
my daughter rides her bike on the sidewalk all the time random thoughts - 28/06/2010 06:07:01 PM 1116 Views
In Sweden we often have combined bike and walking paths a few meters to the side of the road Floffe - 28/06/2010 06:22:40 PM 1015 Views
True, those aren't really what I'd call sidewalks though. *NM* Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:07:15 PM 653 Views
Not sure, but BlackAdder - 28/06/2010 06:53:14 PM 1018 Views
That all depends on what kind of road, I guess. Legolas - 28/06/2010 07:09:52 PM 1151 Views
we actually have a lot of cyclists on one of our 50mph roads LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:08:31 AM 1036 Views
I would Deadsy - 28/06/2010 07:25:22 PM 1031 Views
You've alluded to that a few times now. Sareitha Sedai - 28/06/2010 07:42:05 PM 1008 Views
a lot of the time they do in smaller cities LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:05:38 AM 926 Views
Of course. Most bikers not in the mid-size to larger cities do. everynametaken - 29/06/2010 03:06:03 AM 988 Views
Re: Are they supposed to use sidewalks anywhere? Bored - 02/07/2010 09:57:46 PM 1023 Views
That sucks random thoughts - 28/06/2010 04:34:35 PM 967 Views
You have every right to be on the road. The guy was an ass. Avendesora - 28/06/2010 07:30:23 PM 1089 Views
Thankfully I live in a very bike-friendly city, though this sort of thing has still happened to me. *NM* Panorphaeon - 28/06/2010 07:56:59 PM 609 Views
that's because the central issues is not bike-friendly-ness. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 01:11:56 AM 998 Views
I'm so glad I actually READ what you said before responding. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:16:25 AM 1148 Views
?? I thought it was matter of COURSE that bikes weren't allowed on the highway LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 09:27:06 AM 1097 Views
Should be, but it's not. Joel - 29/06/2010 09:59:35 AM 1097 Views
Question for you. Tim - 29/06/2010 10:22:13 AM 936 Views
the law says they have to to ride in single file as close to curb as is practical random thoughts - 29/06/2010 03:31:55 PM 1010 Views
and i haven't said that anywhere. LadyLorraine - 29/06/2010 02:39:06 PM 971 Views
That is what you get for living in Austin *NM* random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:38:20 PM 605 Views
about the driving on the shoulder thing random thoughts - 29/06/2010 02:49:29 PM 1181 Views
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