Whenever someone reminds me that the Holocaust didn't just target Jews, but also gypsies and communists, my reaction is usually, "So are you trying to say Hitler wasn't all bad, then?"
I can understand why you'd think that if "gypsy" means to you what you described, but I think what people usually mean when they say that is that the Jews tend to get all the attention and sympathy whenever the holocaust is mentioned, and that we shouldn't forget the other persecuted groups. I'm sure I remember a news story from a few years ago where a representative of the gay community wanted to be involved in a holocaust memorial ceremony and the Jewish leader kicked up a fuss, or something like that.
I've never had any contact with gypsies myself, but as far as I'm aware the main problem is that they show up in large numbers to park their caravans in the field next to you, possibly make noise late at night, and after a while go away again leaving behind a great big mess for the locals to clear up.
I don't know if they "live off the state", but I believe that's the perception. Bear in mind, though, that many people in Britain seem to think all minority groups live off the state, including the same economic migrants who are "taking our jobs" (even though the two are mutually exclusive), and the asylum seekers who are forced by the system to live off the state precisely because people don't want them to "take our jobs". These people are also unable to distinguish between the concept of "asylum seeker" (people who have fled persecution in fear of their lives) and "economic migrant" (people who have come here to earn higher wages than they can get at home), probably due to a one-time trend in the papers to write about instances of the latter pretending to be the former. So the fact that it's the perception doesn't necessarily mean a lot. As Paul said, it's likely that gypsies aren't sufficiently integrated to know how to apply for benefits. A lack of a permanent address also makes extremely difficult to claim them.
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
Europeans - what is the deal with the gypsies?
26/06/2010 08:43:59 PM
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I think you'd need to ask Central- and East-Europeans for more details, but...
26/06/2010 08:55:04 PM
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I have never noticed anything like that with gypsies here.
26/06/2010 09:23:26 PM
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If it were a problem, I doubt you would have to look to notice it.
26/06/2010 09:34:05 PM
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They are here too..
27/06/2010 01:36:07 AM
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If you mean the guys who run the roofing and driveway paving scams, among others, they're...
27/06/2010 07:49:39 AM
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National Geographic put out an informative article on the Gypsies and the discrimination...
27/06/2010 07:49:08 AM
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do they look any different than the rest of you folks?
27/06/2010 08:08:31 AM
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Since they're of Indian origin, they actually look more like you.
27/06/2010 08:22:26 AM
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im not indian, i dont look indian, but i guess i get what youre saying, dark skin, dark hair....
27/06/2010 06:32:03 PM
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No offense meant. I realize you're Pakistani, not Indian. But since Pakistan was created to...
27/06/2010 07:06:28 PM
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Re: No offense meant. I realize you're Pakistani, not Indian. But since Pakistan was created to...
27/06/2010 08:37:39 PM
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Yes. They tend to look like they came from India several centuries ago.
27/06/2010 03:13:08 PM
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It's nothing like what you describe in Russia.
27/06/2010 09:20:55 AM
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I think it is more extreme in Eastern Europe
28/06/2010 02:11:01 PM
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That's awful!!!
28/06/2010 11:03:43 PM
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Re: That's awful!!!
28/06/2010 11:31:43 PM
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Social services might need kids to help clear minefields in Bosnia...
28/06/2010 11:36:58 PM
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Argh.
28/06/2010 02:17:50 PM
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Maybe Ireland needs to be more like Scotland.
28/06/2010 02:58:11 PM
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Jesus, imagine the rain if we combined the two...
28/06/2010 03:10:38 PM
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How is it that they have freedom of movement if they get deported?
28/06/2010 11:38:11 PM
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An old gypsy woman LITERALLY tried to curse me in a French train station
02/07/2010 02:59:36 AM
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