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Re: What she has to say about Dreyfus is very interesting. Camilla Send a noteboard - 06/06/2010 04:56:32 PM
I must admit, though I'm relatively familiar with the Dreyfus Affair, I didn't realize it had led to real violence and pogroms - she doesn't mention any casualties, which I hope means there weren't any, but even so. And I like her take on it, and the way she explains the various ways of looking at it, and the difficult position of the French Jews on the affair.

Unfortunately, she felt the need to throw in some comments on contemporary politics inbetween, and several of those I found cringeworthy, or at the very least simplistic and not worthy of the generally high-quality lecture. She would've done better to shut up about the US - the remark about the UK and how dangerous the "we can't reveal this evidence because of national security" thing is, that was good, but pretty much whenever she mentioned the US, it was silly. In the case of the Scott Brown comparison, I'd even say outrageous. I'm curious if somebody will comment on that in the Q&A (I read the written version of her speech rather than watching it, goes a lot faster that way).


Yes, the Scott Brown bit was a bit of a stretch as far as analogies go, but I can see her point (that justice should not be different depending on whether you are part of one group or another).

The Q&A was less interesting than I had hoped for, unfortunately, and I could only get it to play 20 minutes, but it is worth seeing.
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Jacqueline Rose on the Dreyfus affair and related problems, in the LRB - 06/06/2010 11:28:14 AM 1125 Views
What she has to say about Dreyfus is very interesting. - 06/06/2010 04:48:16 PM 918 Views
Re: What she has to say about Dreyfus is very interesting. - 06/06/2010 04:56:32 PM 841 Views
*remains amused at the suggestion of the Dreyfus Affairs "pertinence" to "current" events* - 06/06/2010 05:14:23 PM 854 Views
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*NM* - 08/06/2010 01:16:13 PM 318 Views
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You hallucinated? *NM* - 08/06/2010 08:39:37 AM 368 Views
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If there was more I didn't get far enough to hear it - 08/06/2010 12:09:47 PM 687 Views
That's the problem with the speech - the large majority of what she had to say was worthwhile. - 08/06/2010 01:15:39 PM 743 Views
The problem is blatant bias - 08/06/2010 02:24:57 PM 730 Views

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