and then you let the other side be the gate keeper of the proof. Every reasonable bit of evidence I have seen points to the Turks on ship starting the violence including simply common sense but you will not accept any evidence that does not come from the people who clearly started the violence. Innocent until proven guilty is fine but blind until hell freezes over is not.

It really is shocking that someone who was so willing to convict Israel from the outset is now throwing around the innocent until proven guilty argument. That is a twist that should even be difficult for a practiced liberal.