Kerry got crap for saying he voted for the bill before he voted against it and for saying if you wanted to know what kind of leader he would be ask the people he served with knowing that many of them opposed him.
I hate to speak out against your faith but it was Fox was hardly alone in not being critical of the war before it began. They did have a number of anchors who supported finishing and who supported the surge when those on the left were saying we should cut and run and screaming that the surge was never work. Funny how much criticism Fox gets for right about and how much chest thumping the left continues to do about being wrong.
I hate to speak out against your faith but it was Fox was hardly alone in not being critical of the war before it began. They did have a number of anchors who supported finishing and who supported the surge when those on the left were saying we should cut and run and screaming that the surge was never work. Funny how much criticism Fox gets for right about and how much chest thumping the left continues to do about being wrong.
Indeed, as I noted above, Kerry got crap for saying he voted for the bill before he voted against it, because he only changed his vote when Republicans started tacking on a whole bunch of pork that didn't help the troops at all. No one wanted to hear it in '04, least of all Faux, so I don't know why they suddenly care now. Apart from partisan bias, of course.
... that people would quit with the mock-names, like "Faux News". It always, 100% of the time, immediately gives me the sense that the writer has no credibility. If you want to make a point, or write persuasively for one side or another of a given debate, please, for the love of god, just call them Fox News. That's their name. And no, as a news writer myself, I don't like how they do things either.
Because I realize the derisive term is inflammatory and thus counterproductive. This time they reminded me why I used to use it exclusively. I will NOT call them "news" because I consider that defamation of journalism. They're an international editorial corporation that occasionally, incidentally, reports some actual news more to salvage some of THEIR credibility than for any other reason. And usually has to spin even that. They're the GOPs answer to Pravda, and while they may give the weather every day, that doesn't make them a "news source. "
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US Debt Hits $13T - But Spending Spree in DC Continues.....
- 26/05/2010 05:09:48 PM
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- 26/05/2010 05:09:48 PM
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Look who finally remembered they oppose federal deficits.
- 26/05/2010 05:26:30 PM
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Silly Joel.....please find the posts where I supported GWB's deficit spending.
- 26/05/2010 05:35:13 PM
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hmmm
- 26/05/2010 05:40:49 PM
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That's different; spending trillions on the Iraq war is necessary national defense, just ask Fox.
- 26/05/2010 05:46:49 PM
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0.7 Trillion doesn't usually qualify as 'Trillions'
- 26/05/2010 06:16:15 PM
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I'm not willing to try parsing how much DoD spending was and wasn't Iraq just now.
- 26/05/2010 06:27:50 PM
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You can knock off the "Faux News" stuff, makes you sound like you've been hanging at Daily Kos
- 26/05/2010 07:06:16 PM
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A Fox News person was involved in writing the article so it sent him into a tissy fit
- 26/05/2010 10:56:35 PM
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Well, they annoyed the hell out of me by "accusing" Dems of something they supported for 5 years.
- 27/05/2010 03:30:08 PM
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This would sound better if you didn't say yourself the support was mostly fake
- 28/05/2010 01:05:44 PM
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I thought overthrowing Saddam was fine.....and it worked out very well.
- 26/05/2010 06:37:31 PM
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"They" plural.
- 26/05/2010 05:45:48 PM
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you are so full of crap
- 26/05/2010 05:59:47 PM
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Oh, they weren't silent; they were quite vocal in their endorsement of the Iraq war.
- 26/05/2010 06:03:51 PM
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more ranting doesn't support your argument
- 26/05/2010 06:17:22 PM
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I'll respond to the coherent part of that. 
- 26/05/2010 06:30:07 PM
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- 26/05/2010 06:30:07 PM
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I wish ...
- 26/05/2010 06:57:30 PM
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Is the NYT any better pieces slandering McCain and his wife before an election?
- 26/05/2010 07:16:58 PM
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I don't know those articles specifically.
- 26/05/2010 08:27:44 PM
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So my repeated use of "M$" in moondogs thread only makes things worse? 
- 27/05/2010 03:35:06 PM
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- 27/05/2010 03:35:06 PM
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These days I typically just say, "Fox. "
- 27/05/2010 03:48:40 PM
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You mean you will repsond to part that you like and ignore the part you don't because of a typo
- 26/05/2010 07:18:03 PM
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I'll give Joel a little hand here...
- 26/05/2010 09:14:27 PM
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The second paragraph is very hard to follow unless you already have an idea what he's going to say.
- 27/05/2010 03:43:09 PM
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yes the good republicans spent a lot of money so democrats should spend even more argument
- 26/05/2010 05:52:57 PM
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Well, I'll certainly agree that if it's bad, it's bad whoever's doing it.
- 26/05/2010 06:00:20 PM
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you are attacking Fox News becuase you object to opposing views being expressed
- 26/05/2010 06:27:29 PM
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Not at all; I just expect a little consistency.
- 26/05/2010 06:40:07 PM
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then why not show some and admit that all the news agency were backing the war
- 26/05/2010 07:10:57 PM
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Yes, they were; most of them stopped: One of them didn't.
- 27/05/2010 03:08:34 PM
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so the other media outlets get a pass because the supported losing a war they supported starting?
- 27/05/2010 06:39:21 PM
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We were heading in the wrong direction already, but Obama/Dems put the pedal to the floor...
- 26/05/2010 06:41:48 PM
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I don't mean to defend all of the spending that Obama and Congress have done since he's in power...
- 26/05/2010 09:29:38 PM
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They did push the pedal further down even if they didn't start it
- 26/05/2010 10:46:38 PM
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Here is the problem with this kind of reporting...
- 27/05/2010 07:12:34 AM
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The problem with that kind of logic is it is wrong
- 27/05/2010 02:19:37 PM
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Yes, that would be wrong.
- 27/05/2010 03:35:30 PM
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Based on Obama's budget, he will add more to the debt over the next 10 years.....
- 27/05/2010 04:10:45 PM
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At least we agree that you are wrong because that is what you said
- 27/05/2010 06:50:43 PM
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And where does the rest of the money come from?
- 27/05/2010 08:12:31 PM
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No, that's for the entire Department of Defense.
- 27/05/2010 08:25:28 PM
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using those numbers the war appears to be about half a drop in the bucket *NM*
- 27/05/2010 08:37:31 PM
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