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So my repeated use of "M$" in moondogs thread only makes things worse? Joel Send a noteboard - 27/05/2010 03:35:06 PM
It doesn't bother me that people call Fox News biased because they are it is their stubborn refusal to see the bias in other news sources that I find lacking. Take Joel here for instance, he insist on blaming Fox for the war even though he is more then old enough to remember the run up to the war and he shouldn't need anyone to tell him that support for the war was widespread in the media. Of course that doesn’t fit his world view so he just practices creative remembering in order to make the facts fit what he believes.


But I'm sure it happens on all ends of the political spectrum.

Are there left-leaning news sources that criticized Bush for overspending and are now supporting Obama's spending? If so, that's just as hypocritical as Fox News. And yes, I do believe Fox News is hypocrticial, and it bothers me that there are a lot of people (not necessarily here, but in general) who don't see that, and simply swallow opinions whole. The same sort of thing on the left would also bother me.

But really, the only thing I wanted to get after was the whole mock-names phenomenon. I see it everywhere. Faux News, M$, Nobama, etc. etc. It's lazy, labelling, smacks of bias like nothing else, and I always find it hard to take people seriously when they do it.

Maybe it is all of those things, but for all that Weekend Update used to call itself "the fake news" that's how Fox strikes me. And M$ isn't that much of a stretch; they are, in the final analysis, a business: They don't make software, they make MONEY; software is just the best way they know to do that. Heck, I disagree with Nobama, but I can at least respect it; yeah, it's biased: Against Obama, which is kinda the point, that people using the word are completely opposed to Obama.
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US Debt Hits $13T - But Spending Spree in DC Continues..... trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 05:09:48 PM 917 Views
Look who finally remembered they oppose federal deficits. Joel - 26/05/2010 05:26:30 PM 540 Views
Silly Joel.....please find the posts where I supported GWB's deficit spending. trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 05:35:13 PM 597 Views
hmmm Aisha - 26/05/2010 05:40:49 PM 536 Views
That's different; spending trillions on the Iraq war is necessary national defense, just ask Fox. Joel - 26/05/2010 05:46:49 PM 738 Views
0.7 Trillion doesn't usually qualify as 'Trillions' Isaac - 26/05/2010 06:16:15 PM 683 Views
I'm not willing to try parsing how much DoD spending was and wasn't Iraq just now. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:27:50 PM 648 Views
You can knock off the "Faux News" stuff, makes you sound like you've been hanging at Daily Kos Isaac - 26/05/2010 07:06:16 PM 702 Views
umm ok. Aisha - 26/05/2010 07:26:02 PM 754 Views
A Fox News person was involved in writing the article so it sent him into a tissy fit random thoughts - 26/05/2010 10:56:35 PM 507 Views
Well, they annoyed the hell out of me by "accusing" Dems of something they supported for 5 years. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:30:08 PM 725 Views
ok now you are just making stuff up random thoughts - 27/05/2010 08:11:39 PM 967 Views
This would sound better if you didn't say yourself the support was mostly fake Isaac - 28/05/2010 01:05:44 PM 710 Views
I thought overthrowing Saddam was fine.....and it worked out very well. trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 06:37:31 PM 506 Views
I'll take what comfort I can from this. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:45:53 PM 597 Views
"They" plural. Joel - 26/05/2010 05:45:48 PM 761 Views
you are so full of crap random thoughts - 26/05/2010 05:59:47 PM 560 Views
Oh, they weren't silent; they were quite vocal in their endorsement of the Iraq war. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:03:51 PM 805 Views
more ranting doesn't support your argument random thoughts - 26/05/2010 06:17:22 PM 719 Views
I'll respond to the coherent part of that. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:30:07 PM 734 Views
I wish ... Nate - 26/05/2010 06:57:30 PM 707 Views
Is the NYT any better pieces slandering McCain and his wife before an election? random thoughts - 26/05/2010 07:16:58 PM 571 Views
I don't know those articles specifically. Nate - 26/05/2010 08:27:44 PM 641 Views
So my repeated use of "M$" in moondogs thread only makes things worse? Joel - 27/05/2010 03:35:06 PM 638 Views
These days I typically just say, "Fox. " Joel - 27/05/2010 03:48:40 PM 744 Views
You mean you will repsond to part that you like and ignore the part you don't because of a typo random thoughts - 26/05/2010 07:18:03 PM 677 Views
Actually, I think it was a pretty thorough response. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:57:55 PM 721 Views
then let me make is simpler random thoughts - 27/05/2010 07:23:19 PM 729 Views
I'll give Joel a little hand here... Legolas - 26/05/2010 09:14:27 PM 744 Views
commas are so over rated random thoughts - 26/05/2010 10:50:57 PM 541 Views
The second paragraph is very hard to follow unless you already have an idea what he's going to say. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:43:09 PM 650 Views
yes the good republicans spent a lot of money so democrats should spend even more argument random thoughts - 26/05/2010 05:52:57 PM 499 Views
Well, I'll certainly agree that if it's bad, it's bad whoever's doing it. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:00:20 PM 707 Views
you are attacking Fox News becuase you object to opposing views being expressed random thoughts - 26/05/2010 06:27:29 PM 708 Views
Not at all; I just expect a little consistency. Joel - 26/05/2010 06:40:07 PM 730 Views
then why not show some and admit that all the news agency were backing the war random thoughts - 26/05/2010 07:10:57 PM 709 Views
Yes, they were; most of them stopped: One of them didn't. Joel - 27/05/2010 03:08:34 PM 679 Views
so the other media outlets get a pass because the supported losing a war they supported starting? random thoughts - 27/05/2010 06:39:21 PM 554 Views
We were heading in the wrong direction already, but Obama/Dems put the pedal to the floor... trzaska2000 - 26/05/2010 06:41:48 PM 494 Views
I don't mean to defend all of the spending that Obama and Congress have done since he's in power... Legolas - 26/05/2010 09:29:38 PM 682 Views
They did push the pedal further down even if they didn't start it random thoughts - 26/05/2010 10:46:38 PM 718 Views
Fair enough, I don't disagree with any of that. Legolas - 26/05/2010 10:53:32 PM 570 Views
I find this image to describe the deficits pretty useful Roland00 - 27/05/2010 01:56:29 AM 510 Views
Here is the problem with this kind of reporting... Dannymac - 27/05/2010 07:12:34 AM 644 Views
Correct Roland00 - 27/05/2010 02:11:47 PM 506 Views
The problem with that kind of logic is it is wrong random thoughts - 27/05/2010 02:19:37 PM 529 Views
Yes, that would be wrong. Dannymac - 27/05/2010 03:35:30 PM 547 Views
Based on Obama's budget, he will add more to the debt over the next 10 years..... trzaska2000 - 27/05/2010 04:10:45 PM 465 Views
Increasing the debt is a problem, yes. Dannymac - 27/05/2010 07:55:04 PM 840 Views
At least we agree that you are wrong because that is what you said random thoughts - 27/05/2010 06:50:43 PM 496 Views
And where does the rest of the money come from? Dannymac - 27/05/2010 08:12:31 PM 636 Views
No, that's for the entire Department of Defense. Legolas - 27/05/2010 08:25:28 PM 538 Views
using those numbers the war appears to be about half a drop in the bucket *NM* random thoughts - 27/05/2010 08:37:31 PM 289 Views
I wouldn't call it a drop in the bucket... Legolas - 27/05/2010 09:03:43 PM 748 Views
yeah I was just being a smart ass random thoughts - 27/05/2010 11:09:37 PM 751 Views
Re: And where does the rest of the money come from? random thoughts - 27/05/2010 10:58:59 PM 642 Views
I interpreted it as saying... Legolas - 27/05/2010 02:22:13 PM 1001 Views
Hmmm... Dannymac - 27/05/2010 03:41:15 PM 564 Views
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