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Yes, they were; most of them stopped: One of them didn't. Joel Send a noteboard - 27/05/2010 03:08:34 PM
If you just objected to biased news you would object the MSNBC and the NYT but all you really object to is there being an outlet for conservative views. Let me guess you hate talk radio but love The Daily Show and the Huffington Post. I know you have found enough "evidence" to support your bias but that really doesn't change anything.

So you stand by the argument that is the left’s turn to spend money we don’t have because it stimulates the economy. Where do you believe most of the money

I know it is fact you like to ignore but the war had around 80% support when it started and was being supported by most of major news outlets. It was losing and giving Iraq to Al Quaeda that the right opposed and that Many on Fox supported.

Where do I believe most of the money? Slow down, use your words. ALL of them. ;)

I frequently disagree WSJ articles folks post here, especially their editorial pages, but at least their editorials are clearly LABELED as such, and still usually consistent. Actually, I don't spend much time with any of those outlets. I occasionally read a NYT article if someone links it, but don't always agree; I usually watch links to the Daily Show people post here for pure entertainment (NOT news, though I do think they get things right more often than I'd like. ) I did look at Huffington Post earlier today, but that was because of Larrys thread on the MRE brownies.

I know the war had 80% support at the start; that's why the spineless Senate Dems let themselves be terrorized into voting for it. Prohibition had 80% support in the teens, too; didn't make it a good idea. Faux "News" openly and shamelessly backed the war whether it was popular or not because of who initiated it, and I expect better from a news source. Just as I don't expect them to do an about face on editorializes masquerading as news in support of wartime deficit spending the moment their partys out of power. News sources shouldn't HAVE parties. But then, for all the crap Rather got for calling FL for Gore in 2000, no one ever says anything about the Faux "News" political director later calling "undecided" FL for his cousin George Bush before anyone else did.


So now you KNOW what Fox would have done if the war had been unpopular. It is amazing that you can KNOW so much about Fox but remain ignorant of the bias of the rest of the news.

I don't KNOW what they would've done, I KNOW what they did do; it's not exactly a huge secret. Though that's an interesting tack to take: If the entire media, rather than just Fox, was so gung ho for the Iraq War from start to finish, how does that square with the whole "the media is manipulating public support for a war they oppose by choosing to report the negative stories"? Again, a little consistency would be nice, if only for the novelty.

I know what Fox would have done if the war had been unpopular because even after it became QUITE unpopular they continued to press the case for it. It's not a matter of hypothetical speculation, it's a matter of historical fact.
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US Debt Hits $13T - But Spending Spree in DC Continues..... - 26/05/2010 05:09:48 PM 917 Views
Look who finally remembered they oppose federal deficits. - 26/05/2010 05:26:30 PM 539 Views
Silly Joel.....please find the posts where I supported GWB's deficit spending. - 26/05/2010 05:35:13 PM 596 Views
hmmm - 26/05/2010 05:40:49 PM 535 Views
I thought overthrowing Saddam was fine.....and it worked out very well. - 26/05/2010 06:37:31 PM 506 Views
I'll take what comfort I can from this. - 26/05/2010 06:45:53 PM 597 Views
"They" plural. - 26/05/2010 05:45:48 PM 761 Views
you are so full of crap - 26/05/2010 05:59:47 PM 559 Views
Oh, they weren't silent; they were quite vocal in their endorsement of the Iraq war. - 26/05/2010 06:03:51 PM 804 Views
more ranting doesn't support your argument - 26/05/2010 06:17:22 PM 718 Views
I'll respond to the coherent part of that. - 26/05/2010 06:30:07 PM 733 Views
I wish ... - 26/05/2010 06:57:30 PM 707 Views
Is the NYT any better pieces slandering McCain and his wife before an election? - 26/05/2010 07:16:58 PM 571 Views
I don't know those articles specifically. - 26/05/2010 08:27:44 PM 641 Views
These days I typically just say, "Fox. " - 27/05/2010 03:48:40 PM 744 Views
You mean you will repsond to part that you like and ignore the part you don't because of a typo - 26/05/2010 07:18:03 PM 676 Views
Actually, I think it was a pretty thorough response. - 27/05/2010 03:57:55 PM 720 Views
then let me make is simpler - 27/05/2010 07:23:19 PM 728 Views
I'll give Joel a little hand here... - 26/05/2010 09:14:27 PM 744 Views
commas are so over rated - 26/05/2010 10:50:57 PM 540 Views
yes the good republicans spent a lot of money so democrats should spend even more argument - 26/05/2010 05:52:57 PM 499 Views
Well, I'll certainly agree that if it's bad, it's bad whoever's doing it. - 26/05/2010 06:00:20 PM 706 Views
you are attacking Fox News becuase you object to opposing views being expressed - 26/05/2010 06:27:29 PM 708 Views
Not at all; I just expect a little consistency. - 26/05/2010 06:40:07 PM 730 Views
then why not show some and admit that all the news agency were backing the war - 26/05/2010 07:10:57 PM 708 Views
Yes, they were; most of them stopped: One of them didn't. - 27/05/2010 03:08:34 PM 679 Views
I find this image to describe the deficits pretty useful - 27/05/2010 01:56:29 AM 510 Views
Here is the problem with this kind of reporting... - 27/05/2010 07:12:34 AM 643 Views
Correct - 27/05/2010 02:11:47 PM 506 Views
The problem with that kind of logic is it is wrong - 27/05/2010 02:19:37 PM 529 Views
Yes, that would be wrong. - 27/05/2010 03:35:30 PM 547 Views
Based on Obama's budget, he will add more to the debt over the next 10 years..... - 27/05/2010 04:10:45 PM 465 Views
Increasing the debt is a problem, yes. - 27/05/2010 07:55:04 PM 840 Views
At least we agree that you are wrong because that is what you said - 27/05/2010 06:50:43 PM 496 Views
And where does the rest of the money come from? - 27/05/2010 08:12:31 PM 636 Views
No, that's for the entire Department of Defense. - 27/05/2010 08:25:28 PM 538 Views
using those numbers the war appears to be about half a drop in the bucket *NM* - 27/05/2010 08:37:31 PM 288 Views
I wouldn't call it a drop in the bucket... - 27/05/2010 09:03:43 PM 748 Views
yeah I was just being a smart ass - 27/05/2010 11:09:37 PM 751 Views
Re: And where does the rest of the money come from? - 27/05/2010 10:58:59 PM 641 Views
I interpreted it as saying... - 27/05/2010 02:22:13 PM 1001 Views
Hmmm... - 27/05/2010 03:41:15 PM 563 Views

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