Yeah, but their founders claimed to be bigger than Jesus and I didn't believe that either.
Joel Send a noteboard - 27/05/2010 02:50:00 PM

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And I'm inclined to agree with your last statement despite far less grounds for saying so. It's all well to talk about all the stuff Macs can run and their great popularity that's only increasing, but while it's true that MacOS can run Windows and other M$ apps, there's one very important thing it CAN'T run: A PC. M$ doesn't make computers, they make software, just as IBM and Intel don't make software, they make computers and chips. It continues to be interesting to watch and see if Apples decision to address every aspect of the market will be more productive than IBMs decision to let Bill Gates keep the rights to the only OS they had for 20 years. But I think it's worth noting that Gates doesn't really care who wins that argument as long as they run Windows.
Of course, by being a one stop shop Apple shares some of Microsofts vulnerabilities to an even greater extent: Just yesterday I was reading about the DoJ antitrust investigation already begun against Apple, and the new one pending, while thinking, Ironic; weren't these the guys who spent FIFTEEN YEARS suing Microsoft over rights to DOS and forcing PC makers to use it before M$ basically said, "fine, you can have it; we're doing Windows now"? And for all that I like to accuse M$ of designing Windows to crash if you use non-M$ applications that compete with others M$ sells, Apple's the only company I know of that's gone on record that they ACTUALLY DO THIS!
"Who's side are you on?"
"It doesn't matter; both sides are becoming the same.... "

And I'm inclined to agree with your last statement despite far less grounds for saying so. It's all well to talk about all the stuff Macs can run and their great popularity that's only increasing, but while it's true that MacOS can run Windows and other M$ apps, there's one very important thing it CAN'T run: A PC. M$ doesn't make computers, they make software, just as IBM and Intel don't make software, they make computers and chips. It continues to be interesting to watch and see if Apples decision to address every aspect of the market will be more productive than IBMs decision to let Bill Gates keep the rights to the only OS they had for 20 years. But I think it's worth noting that Gates doesn't really care who wins that argument as long as they run Windows.

Of course, by being a one stop shop Apple shares some of Microsofts vulnerabilities to an even greater extent: Just yesterday I was reading about the DoJ antitrust investigation already begun against Apple, and the new one pending, while thinking, Ironic; weren't these the guys who spent FIFTEEN YEARS suing Microsoft over rights to DOS and forcing PC makers to use it before M$ basically said, "fine, you can have it; we're doing Windows now"? And for all that I like to accuse M$ of designing Windows to crash if you use non-M$ applications that compete with others M$ sells, Apple's the only company I know of that's gone on record that they ACTUALLY DO THIS!
"Who's side are you on?"
"It doesn't matter; both sides are becoming the same.... "
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This message last edited by Joel on 27/05/2010 at 03:03:53 PM
apple now bigger than microsoft
27/05/2010 07:12:48 AM
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1. Hurrah! 2. I believe you are wrong...
27/05/2010 08:39:22 AM
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Name five fortune five hundrend companies that run "entirely on Macs" *NM*
27/05/2010 02:14:59 PM
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There's hasn't been a company called Apple Computers for years now
27/05/2010 02:15:40 PM
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Anything that can be done on Windows can be done on a Mac? Really?
27/05/2010 03:01:01 PM
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Yes it will.
27/05/2010 03:43:11 PM
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MacOS will run my PC?
27/05/2010 04:02:43 PM
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Your stance is a little strange here...
27/05/2010 08:33:19 PM
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It isn't hard to make a pc that boots mac
27/05/2010 08:58:43 PM
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You can also create a virtual machine running OSX on Windows *NM*
28/05/2010 05:10:30 AM
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After Macs switched to Intel processing there were some hacks available to make them run on PCs.
27/05/2010 11:35:51 PM
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Do you know why IT will not run virtualization? It is quite simple.
27/05/2010 11:31:17 PM
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iDon't approve
27/05/2010 08:43:38 AM
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nooo!
27/05/2010 10:06:21 AM
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steam is now available for mac
27/05/2010 08:04:34 PM
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Have you tried playing steam on a mac?
27/05/2010 09:00:06 PM
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even the authors of that article say "we didn't run this on a real mac"
28/05/2010 02:44:38 AM
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It was using the mac version of the 285 the most powerful video card on the mac
28/05/2010 06:02:33 AM
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it's still a big step though, you have to admit *NM*
28/05/2010 07:10:14 AM
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Yeah but I would recommend spend the 100 dollars for an OEM copy of windows and dual boot
28/05/2010 11:40:13 PM
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Not only the consumer market though..
27/05/2010 10:26:50 AM
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Microsoft is stil in better posistion
27/05/2010 02:25:09 PM
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Re: Microsoft is stil in better posistion
27/05/2010 07:52:48 PM
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doesn't matter which phone it is what matters is that the i-phone can be replaced and windows can't
27/05/2010 08:34:13 PM
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The really big bucks is in server software as every business needs server software to run databases.
27/05/2010 11:20:41 PM
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what can't they run on iphones?
28/05/2010 02:41:18 AM
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Windows-only programs, presumably. Businesses use more than simple office products.
28/05/2010 03:04:14 AM
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to use an oft-quoted phrase: "there's an app for that"
28/05/2010 03:30:26 AM
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To use a not-so-oft-quoted phrase, "Not if it doesn't conform to Apple specifications."
28/05/2010 05:53:54 AM
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the point is, that businesses are finding ways to make it work, even though they don't like it
28/05/2010 07:07:31 AM
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Yeah, but their founders claimed to be bigger than Jesus and I didn't believe that either.
27/05/2010 02:50:00 PM
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True, Apple is definitely moving in the "Evil Empire" direction.
27/05/2010 08:36:55 PM
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Re: True, Apple is definitely moving in the "Evil Empire" direction.
28/05/2010 12:04:54 AM
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