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Well, I'll certainly agree that if it's bad, it's bad whoever's doing it. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/05/2010 06:00:20 PM
What is the left's turn now to drive us deeper into debt and they don't won't be shown up by any cowboy president? I know that sounds so convincing to the those on the far left but it really is childish argument.

Doesn’t some little tickle in the back of your brain tell you that run away spending is bad no matter who is doing it?

Which gives me a leg up on Faux right there. :P

I'm not entirely convinced this is "runaway" spending; true deficit spending is more of an investment and widely recognized by economists from across the spectrum as legitimate under some circumstances. You can't allow the economy to come to a screeching halt, even if you are willing to let millions of newly unemployed people (and their kids; remember SCHIP?) starve. Whether that's what Obama is doing, and how well, is also a legitimate argument, but Faux "News" has no business raising it after beating the drum for spending trillions on a pointless quagmire for five years.

EDIT: Oh, and lest you bring it up, that's not an ad hominem: I'm not attacking the argument because it comes from Faux "News" (in fact I've conceded it's a legitimate debate and that trzaskas position on it has been consistent) I'm attacking Faux "News" based on their large and long record of inconsistent, self serving and hypocritical arguments. And while I try not judge people, I have no problem judging an organization beneath contempt.
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"They" plural. - 26/05/2010 05:45:48 PM 825 Views
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Oh, they weren't silent; they were quite vocal in their endorsement of the Iraq war. - 26/05/2010 06:03:51 PM 865 Views
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These days I typically just say, "Fox. " - 27/05/2010 03:48:40 PM 810 Views
You mean you will repsond to part that you like and ignore the part you don't because of a typo - 26/05/2010 07:18:03 PM 718 Views
Actually, I think it was a pretty thorough response. - 27/05/2010 03:57:55 PM 805 Views
then let me make is simpler - 27/05/2010 07:23:19 PM 794 Views
I'll give Joel a little hand here... - 26/05/2010 09:14:27 PM 812 Views
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Well, I'll certainly agree that if it's bad, it's bad whoever's doing it. - 26/05/2010 06:00:20 PM 771 Views
you are attacking Fox News becuase you object to opposing views being expressed - 26/05/2010 06:27:29 PM 772 Views
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I find this image to describe the deficits pretty useful - 27/05/2010 01:56:29 AM 573 Views
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Correct - 27/05/2010 02:11:47 PM 571 Views
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I interpreted it as saying... - 27/05/2010 02:22:13 PM 1062 Views
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