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China does. Joel Send a noteboard - 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM
I commend how President Lee has handled the situation, when the Chenoan sank, he didn't accuse blame, he didn't make any knee-jerk reactions. He very calmly called in a international team of experts to investigate and waited for their findings. This has greatly strengthened his hand internationally. And now he's made a forceful response by hitting North Korea economically, he looks bellicose and tough without really doing anything.

The conundrum for President Lee is that he can't respond militarily because absolutely no one wants another Korean War - not to mention it would utterly spook investors. It would be devastating for the Korea peninsula if all out war broke out. Pyongyang can credibly decimate Seoul with conventional arms alone. There are about 12 million inhabitants in Seoul. North Korea is bat-shit crazy, but their not suicidal, the regime cares about it's survival, if all out war broke out that would be the end of that regime. South Korea is very vulnerable because of its geographic location. Because of that, the U.S. has been very prudent not to trigger any war-like act. And North Korea knows it; it is the Achilles' heel for both countries.

The biggest danger with these situations is that they can slip out from one's control, sometimes the best policy is to wait until emotions calm down, then decide where to go from there.

They're just waiting until they can be certain of complete victory rather than stalemate. I imagine the Western responses to increasingly belligerent Chinese and North Korean actions have them thinking that if they just apply enough pressure for long enough we'll throw up our hands and leave. I'm largely convinced of it myself; wonder how things will go then for the South Korean citizens talk of war jeopardizes. But I don't wonder MUCH.

I mean, seriously, the US has been prudent not to trigger warlike action? China kidnapped a US Navy plane in international airspace (act of war) and examined it while they debriefed the crew held hostage. A few years later they gave Pakistan nuclear weapons, which multiplied our headaches in Southeast Asia tenfold (if anyone wonders why we tolerated Musharraf, it was to prevent someone like bin Laden from getting a nuclear arsenal. ) North Korea's developed nuclear weapons, supposedly without Chinese aid (I guess that only goes to Pakistan... ) as well as missiles capable of placing them on the mainland US. And knowingly sunk a South Korean ship (act of war. ) Yeah, it's a REALLY good thing WE haven't done anything warlike to upset the pacific calm of the region. Neville Chamberlain would be proud of our restraint. :rolleyes:
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Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war? - 24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM 991 Views
I was wondering when something would be posted about this - 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM 688 Views
haha. I love that mental image - 24/05/2010 02:51:53 PM 609 Views
But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore? - 24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM 625 Views
that might well be a good point - 24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM 584 Views
Very interesting point. That is a wild card. *NM* - 24/05/2010 03:27:53 PM 215 Views
The explaination I have heard... - 24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM 650 Views
I don't know... - 24/05/2010 09:49:25 PM 547 Views
No, because China doesn't want us in the region. - 25/05/2010 12:20:47 AM 592 Views
Um, wasn't that pretty much always understood? - 25/05/2010 12:08:12 AM 555 Views
yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation - 24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM 602 Views
If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it. - 24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM 621 Views
mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest. - 24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM 607 Views
Wikipedia is your friend. - 24/05/2010 03:08:33 PM 773 Views
ah mk. Thanks!! - 24/05/2010 04:39:49 PM 562 Views
Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything. - 24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM 573 Views
Korea is directly in our sphere of influence - 24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 519 Views
I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense. - 24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM 668 Views
In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang. - 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM 507 Views
Oh yuck - there are far better ways. - 24/05/2010 06:01:44 PM 542 Views
yah... - 24/05/2010 06:27:37 PM 578 Views
Re: yah... - 24/05/2010 06:34:13 PM 554 Views
That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma. - 24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 526 Views
I don't think the US could, if China decided to get involved - 24/05/2010 08:45:23 PM 508 Views
A part of me says just get it over with - 24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM 516 Views
I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing. - 24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM 662 Views
I agree - 24/05/2010 04:17:19 PM 671 Views
Pretty much agree with all of that. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:17:27 PM 241 Views
I'm trying not to. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM 213 Views
This. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:28:20 PM 236 Views
I understand - 24/05/2010 06:00:09 PM 511 Views
Yes - 24/05/2010 06:05:25 PM 525 Views
i agree - 24/05/2010 06:28:37 PM 550 Views
This has disaster written all over it *NM* - 24/05/2010 08:39:37 PM 228 Views
Technically, weren't we always? - 24/05/2010 08:51:29 PM 518 Views
Exactly. - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM 573 Views
I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM* - 24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM 230 Views
No one wants to resume the Korean War. - 24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM 630 Views
China does. - 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM 581 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM 610 Views
Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes. - 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM 605 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM 592 Views
North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding? - 25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM 567 Views
The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis. - 25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM 584 Views
You are missing the main point. - 25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM 622 Views
I'm not saying it's nothing new. - 25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM 598 Views
Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger. - 25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM 532 Views
Yes, that is the danger. - 26/05/2010 09:04:36 PM 678 Views
Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before. - 26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM 557 Views

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