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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 26/04/2010 08:33:04 PM
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The Arizona immigration bill thingy BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM 2109 Views
what do you expect from one of the last states to accept MLK day? Aisha - 26/04/2010 01:19:03 AM 1210 Views
Yes, well, at least you are in the 27% of Americans that have a Passport. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 01:48:44 AM 1024 Views
Such a wrongheaded law. LiterateDog - 26/04/2010 02:25:10 AM 921 Views
A lot of stuff makes me go "whuh?" legally. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 03:38:12 AM 805 Views
Sounds like apartheid in SA... Napoleon62 - 26/04/2010 02:36:52 AM 968 Views
As bad as the law is, that's an ignorant statement. *NM* LiterateDog - 26/04/2010 02:38:16 AM 449 Views
Re: Sounds like apartheid in SA... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:13:17 AM 1070 Views
It shows that Arizona is already lost Roland00 - 26/04/2010 03:09:24 AM 963 Views
It will only take a few times getting their asses sued off for detaining U.S. citizens against... everynametaken - 26/04/2010 05:54:49 AM 1009 Views
Yeah, I can't wait 'til a Latino state representative is arrested for looking illegal. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 07:26:13 AM 909 Views
or even better, a celebrity. I choose Antonia Banderas (when he has the funky beard hobo look) *NM* Aisha - 26/04/2010 12:32:18 PM 410 Views
Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border Dark Knight - 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM 903 Views
Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation. everynametaken - 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM 928 Views
I do. Brian - 26/04/2010 07:11:10 AM 1092 Views
Re: I do. everynametaken - 26/04/2010 07:45:21 AM 924 Views
Yeah, I saw an interview with a former U.S. Drug Czar Brian - 26/04/2010 06:35:10 PM 893 Views
Okay, I grew up in Arizona. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 12:41:21 PM 1119 Views
Re: Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:58:37 PM 1001 Views
looks like somebody doesn't quite get the point moondog - 29/04/2010 06:18:58 AM 1570 Views
Some thoughts Amys - 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM 1032 Views
I wouldn't worry to much laws like that random thoughts - 26/04/2010 03:03:16 PM 911 Views
patriot act gives that to any federal law enforcement officer moondog - 29/04/2010 06:13:38 AM 1006 Views
Re: Some thoughts BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 04:04:55 PM 902 Views
It's not just outrageous; it's plain stupid. The latter is almost as offensive as the former. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 07:30:30 AM 930 Views
Sounds more like a bill to convince people they are doing something than to do something snoopcester - 26/04/2010 12:43:19 PM 899 Views
What I find interesting about all this... Legolas - 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM 1007 Views
well you see, that IS part of the problem LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 01:13:19 PM 1000 Views
It is interesting to see how it contrasts with your take on it, being from a country with them snoopcester - 26/04/2010 02:11:18 PM 959 Views
Re: What I find interesting about all this... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:52:09 PM 938 Views
Perhaps I'm wrong, but... Elaine - 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM 890 Views
I don't know about the green cards LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM 930 Views
That last point doesn't really make any sense. Legolas - 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM 917 Views
my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM 869 Views
Hey, I think it's an appalling law. Elaine - 27/04/2010 02:24:30 PM 1000 Views
Re: Perhaps I'm wrong, but... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:41:47 PM 838 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass random thoughts - 26/04/2010 02:59:11 PM 970 Views
The law will most likely not be overturned. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM 909 Views
I meant by the courts random thoughts - 27/04/2010 03:49:11 PM 814 Views
ah well. that'd be nice, then. *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 05:14:31 PM 427 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* Aisha - 26/04/2010 03:20:45 PM 458 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* beckstcw - 26/04/2010 06:53:32 PM 406 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* everynametaken - 26/04/2010 08:33:04 PM 436 Views
The federal government will be collective ass but it may help to get the law off their overturned *NM* beckstcw - 27/04/2010 05:33:42 AM 432 Views
Their collective ass will be overturned but it may help to get the law off the federal government *NM* BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 09:18:02 AM 402 Views
It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues. Legolas - 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM 905 Views
the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM 929 Views
I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes. Legolas - 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM 944 Views
*shrug* I don't know. I just think that people are way too uptight about the issue LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 05:02:30 PM 873 Views
I agree with you Brian - 26/04/2010 05:26:47 PM 894 Views
that is also true LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 05:44:40 PM 839 Views
There is a difference between assimilating and being assimilated random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:09:19 PM 915 Views
the differences really are not that minor random thoughts - 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM 934 Views
hmm, see LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM 829 Views
I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors random thoughts - 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM 846 Views
mmmm Tamale. LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 08:53:13 PM 869 Views
When I say relatively minor, it's because I'm thinking of those *other* assimilation problems here Legolas - 28/04/2010 10:30:04 PM 1136 Views
It should rattle anyone who lives in a democracy and who likes their way of life random thoughts - 28/04/2010 11:15:18 PM 947 Views
a minor point.... moondog - 29/04/2010 06:30:22 AM 940 Views
More power to the government! and We took that land fair and square! *NM* heartbreak - 26/04/2010 04:43:15 PM 372 Views
I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute Isaac - 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM 1139 Views
Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM 1247 Views
you are correct moondog - 29/04/2010 06:39:29 AM 1273 Views
Uhm, how is that "worst" case scenario? LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:28:28 PM 900 Views
Worst reasonable case scenario Isaac - 28/04/2010 06:48:29 PM 837 Views
Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected? dart_board - 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM 990 Views
That's funny... LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM 1212 Views
echo chamber much? random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM 955 Views
there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM 840 Views
Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. dart_board - 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM 900 Views
Those incidents are horrible LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 01:07:39 PM 872 Views
Re: That's funny... dart_board - 28/04/2010 12:30:41 PM 906 Views
And this law will not give them what they want LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 01:12:50 PM 920 Views
Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona. Libby - 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 931 Views
now that's just crazy talk. LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:58:42 AM 857 Views
activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM* random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM 390 Views
It will cost money Libby - 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM 916 Views
but all of that ignores the long term savings random thoughts - 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM 849 Views
it's less a matter of american tourism LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM 893 Views
if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona random thoughts - 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM 952 Views
I will admit LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 07:01:55 PM 870 Views
there have always been bad cops and there always will be random thoughts - 28/04/2010 08:53:50 PM 841 Views
I don't see any real long term savings coming from this. Libby - 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM 947 Views
70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic random thoughts - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1105 Views
real science? LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM 888 Views
I linked to it further up the thread and you responded random thoughts - 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM 871 Views
ah, I think I missed it for some reason LadyLorraine - 29/04/2010 12:18:13 AM 940 Views
who has time to read all of this crap *NM* random thoughts - 29/04/2010 04:26:11 AM 376 Views
I'm familiar with the Rasmussen poll Libby - 28/04/2010 11:31:30 PM 1184 Views
Here's Judge Napolitano's response to this AgentOrange - 27/04/2010 02:19:49 PM 881 Views
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