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Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM
I was sure about the uniform because so the officers have so many strange mess dress uniforms that I can’t keep up with them all.

I am the only Marine in a room full of ex air force guys so chair force jokes just come naturally to me. Of course I probably wouldn’t make that joke to Buzz since he earned that chest full of ribbons the hard way and some of them are rather impressive;)


Some of my favorite fliers from the 2nd World War were US Marines - so they get full measure for having good pilots.

There are plenty of courageous Air Force guys besides Buzz. I worked for a Captain who I only once saw in dress uniform. He had a ribbon that I'd never seen anyone else with marked with stars such that he'd gotten it ten times.

I looked it up later. Air Medals. Ten frackin' Air medals.

Now one of them - that would be cool but not THAT impressive. They're not silver or bronze star level as I understand it. But TEN? That takes real work.

Lots of unsung heroes out there. I'm sure that's just as true for the Army, the Marines the Navy etc.

For every battle honor won - a thousand heroes die -
Unsung and unremembered.
May God stand between you and harm in all the empty places you must walk.

Old Egyptian Blessing
Air Medal
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1266 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 371 Views
Really? A few months ago Lt. Choi was still in the military, I didn't realize he'd been discharged beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:37:47 AM 768 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go Isaac - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 767 Views
There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM 705 Views
But if you aren't wearing your uniform at the bar... beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:58:33 AM 705 Views
You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 327 Views
Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing Isaac - 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM 734 Views
I've seen it. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 708 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 748 Views
perhaps not on its own LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 674 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 780 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 738 Views
Could be. SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 708 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 315 Views
Excepting possibly finals period, I'm pretty sure "uptight college kid" is an oxymoron. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/04/2010 07:07:58 PM 323 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 936 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids random thoughts - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 853 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 668 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 744 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 341 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 729 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 899 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 763 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 680 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 718 Views
The F/A18 does OK random thoughts - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 649 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 717 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1077 Views
Oh not entirely SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1001 Views
I second that UGH *NM* Aisha - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 321 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 688 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 344 Views
That's why I specified dishonorably discharged. They're no longer in the military. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 08:43:22 PM 728 Views
*shrug* sorry, I'm a bit cynical over how much the military EVER lets go. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 10:13:51 PM 693 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 709 Views
Not in uniform. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 829 Views
oh puhlease Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 774 Views
It's not a just a piece of clothing, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on that. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:45:52 AM 748 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 896 Views
and another thing Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 739 Views
I'm on their side, BUT beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 719 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 786 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 365 Views
Thing is though SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 822 Views
Well... it's a military policy. If they were protesting animal cruelty while wearing it, I'd agree beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:53:36 AM 920 Views
What beetnemesis said. They're not talking about rights for all gays, but rights for gay soldiers. Tim - 21/04/2010 09:54:09 AM 690 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way snoopcester - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 727 Views
It's peaceful and non-violent. I see nothing wrong with them making their point in this in addition The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:12:54 PM 684 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Dannymac - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 791 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Aisha - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 717 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 310 Views
Take it up with congress, the regulations are clear, no such right exists, it is expressly banned *NM* Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:46:14 PM 282 Views
The uniform isn't just handed to you after Basic with no strings attached. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 03:04:32 PM 775 Views
The funny thing about it is SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 823 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is Bored - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 692 Views
Actually -the question isn't right SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 592 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in Isaac - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 653 Views
Is he? SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 773 Views
Apparently Isaac - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 827 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 709 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 698 Views
very true random thoughts - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 732 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 773 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same random thoughts - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 789 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 667 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 707 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 726 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 826 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 781 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. LiterateDog - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 588 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1043 Views
and I think they will get it random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 838 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 339 Views
Wow, The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 705 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 862 Views
Le sigh. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 657 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 784 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 763 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 689 Views
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