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People who see this as an ecological book are missing the point of the book random thoughts Send a noteboard - 16/04/2010 06:28:40 PM
The book is about power and the limitations of power. An over riding theme in all of the books is that you have these incredible powerful people but they are for the most part helpless victims of circumstance and their own arrogance. Look at Paul and Leto II. Both were unimaginable powerful men who were trapped by their power.

Movements and ideas on the other hand are incredible powerful in Herbert’s books but they are destructive and uncontrollable. It is true that conflict between the groups is not well developed but that isn’t because the main conflict is with the planet it is because the main conflicts are internal conflicts and conflicts inside the Atreides household.

Finally a book isn’t flawed because it reflects the attitudes and beliefs of the times or the person who wrote it instead it is what makes them worth reading. You don’t have to agree with those ideas but seeing them isn’t a flaw.
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Frank Herbert, Dune Chronicles (series reviews within) - 16/04/2010 04:11:40 AM 1984 Views
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I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological" - 18/04/2010 12:13:14 AM 1221 Views
Re: I was using a fairly precise term when I said "ecological" - 18/04/2010 03:34:33 AM 1276 Views
Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white? - 18/04/2010 05:18:07 AM 1078 Views
Re: Please read linked interview...as I call bullshit. Also, why are your walls white? - 19/04/2010 06:15:26 PM 1122 Views
That was most of my issue. - 21/04/2010 12:12:56 AM 1004 Views
Re: That was most of my issue. - 21/04/2010 06:33:14 PM 953 Views
Re: That was most of my issue. - 29/04/2010 11:38:26 PM 937 Views
Just because something plays a dominate role doesn't make it a theme - 21/04/2010 02:09:42 PM 1079 Views
A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present - 21/04/2010 11:21:38 PM 1011 Views
Re: A theme is merely a dominant strain in a story; there can be more than one theme present - 22/04/2010 04:58:01 AM 988 Views
Good points - 22/04/2010 09:19:45 PM 1031 Views
Re: Good points - 22/04/2010 10:55:21 PM 977 Views
when you call it human ecology I come much closer to agreeing - 22/04/2010 02:16:58 PM 1007 Views
Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic. - 19/04/2010 07:52:27 PM 1099 Views
Re: Not really sure how Larry's definition is archaic. - 20/04/2010 07:04:40 PM 967 Views
You're not using "archaic" correctly - 20/04/2010 10:07:31 PM 967 Views
Your patronizing manner aside, that's not "archaic" at all. - 21/04/2010 01:46:50 AM 857 Views
doesn't that regulate the point down to interesting trivia? - 21/04/2010 02:36:38 PM 1016 Views
Re: Your patronizing manner aside, that's not "archaic" at all. - 21/04/2010 06:23:24 PM 1109 Views
Funny the things people focus on - 21/04/2010 11:24:59 PM 984 Views
Re: Funny the things people focus on - 23/04/2010 05:28:54 PM 985 Views
People who see this as an ecological book are missing the point of the book - 16/04/2010 06:28:40 PM 1472 Views
Books can have more than one theme. Great books almost always do. *NM* - 16/04/2010 07:15:11 PM 484 Views
I agree with that I just never really the ecological theme to Dune - 16/04/2010 10:12:26 PM 1162 Views
Ecology goes more than one way - 17/04/2010 12:12:45 AM 1116 Views
There are several points to the book/series - 17/04/2010 12:11:38 AM 1180 Views
Everyone get something different from a book - 19/04/2010 07:01:51 PM 1374 Views
I believe those themes become more pronounced later in the series - 20/04/2010 10:09:36 PM 1131 Views
I remember having hated every single character of this book. Some random thoughts - 17/04/2010 05:08:25 PM 1310 Views
I hope you got to Darwi Odrade - 21/04/2010 03:44:27 PM 1004 Views
Re: Frank Herbert, Dune - 17/04/2010 08:05:16 PM 1574 Views
I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom - 17/04/2010 10:22:27 PM 1362 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom - 18/04/2010 04:38:10 AM 1322 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom - 19/04/2010 04:04:43 AM 1242 Views
Re: I guess we'll have a few disagreements here, Dom - 22/04/2010 04:31:26 AM 1001 Views
I thought all of Dune had begun as a serial in a SF magazine. *NM* - 22/04/2010 01:58:22 PM 430 Views
And Dune Messiah as well was serialized at first, in Galaxy *NM* - 22/04/2010 09:31:54 PM 434 Views
Dune Messiah (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) - 19/04/2010 08:42:18 AM 1243 Views
Re: Dune Messiah (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) - 21/04/2010 03:33:46 PM 959 Views
I didn't see that in Alia - 21/04/2010 11:27:22 PM 908 Views
One of my favorite series! - 21/04/2010 03:30:57 PM 905 Views
I didn't "miss it" as much as I chose to deemphasize it - 21/04/2010 11:29:50 PM 830 Views
Re: I didn't "miss it" as much as I chose to deemphasize it - 22/04/2010 04:02:26 PM 952 Views
His style doesn't appeal to me as much, unfortunately - 22/04/2010 09:17:21 PM 852 Views
You might want to track down his short stories one day... - 23/04/2010 02:06:09 PM 1064 Views
Children of Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) - 22/04/2010 06:47:04 AM 1033 Views
See...I think I made a mistake in my reading of Dune - 22/04/2010 07:26:28 AM 1017 Views
Depends - 22/04/2010 08:01:39 AM 911 Views
Re: Depends - 22/04/2010 11:12:15 PM 1278 Views
read something else - 23/04/2010 07:49:34 PM 901 Views
LA Times article on Dune (4/18/2010) - 23/04/2010 10:59:00 AM 857 Views
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Re: Heretics of Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) - 29/04/2010 03:26:28 PM 944 Views
I read the wiki synopses of those two books - 29/04/2010 09:44:07 PM 901 Views
Re: I read the wiki synopses of those two books - 10/05/2010 04:10:49 AM 1246 Views
Chapterhouse: Dune (2001 initial read; 2010 re-read) - 30/04/2010 02:31:10 PM 1058 Views
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