So how did the Fellowship of the Dresden Files match up? (Spoilers for Changes)
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 13/04/2010 12:20:25 PM
Shortly before the attack on Chichn Itza or whatever, when Harry and his gang are getting ready, and psyching themselves up by arguing over who is analogous to which member of the Fellowship of the Rings, how do you suppose it went?
The consensus we get from the books is:
Leanansidhe - Gandalf
Harry Dresden - Sam Gamgee or Gollum
Thomas Raith - Legolas
Sanya or Martin - Boromir
Karrin Murphy or Mouse - Gimli
Susan - Aragorn(?)
For the rest of it, I don't think anyone can argue with Molly being one of lamer Hobbits (I am thinking of Pippen, on account of Merry stabbing the Witch King), but aside from Harry, Thomas & Leanne, who gets which?
IMO:
Harry - Sam
Thomas - Legolas
Leanne - Gandalf
Susan - Frodo
Martin - Gollum
Sanya - Aragorn
Karrin - Boromir
Mouse - Gimli
Molly - Merry & Pippen
I chose Susan for Frodo, because as the mother of the kid they were going to rescue, she is the one at the heart of the quest, and she and Harry were closest to each other, so it fits if we stipulate Harry as Sam. I made Martin Gollum because he is a bad guy and all screwed-up in the head (and it maintains the dynamic with Susan/Frodo & Harry/Sam, because Harry was no big fan of his). Boromir, for the record, was a heroic character. He was not a villain who redeemed himself through sacrifice or a traitor. He was a tragic hero, and the tragic flaw that brought him down was caring for his country more than what his country represented, which made him vulnerable for a single MOMENT to an overwhleming temptation. A temptation that even superhuman creatures like Gandalf and Galadriel feared to confront. Boromir lacked their specific knowledge and understanding of the power he sought, which is why he fell - it was not out of malice or avarice or anything like that. He was simply flawed and human. With that in mind, I cannot countenance making Martin into Boromir. I picked Karrin, because she's a heroic warrior-type holding an office responsible for protecting a city, and scion of a family with a history of the same, who meets a tragic end (though admittedly not as final as Boromir's). Susan could also be a candidate for Boromir, but then you have to make Harry into Frodo, because absolutely no one else fits besides Maggie's parents, and now you need a new Sam (Mouse?) and who knows where you go from there. With those choices in mind, and the relative dramatic interchangability of Merry & Pippin (arguably there were two of them for no other reason than to allow them to be in two different places in RotK), I went with the characters' own arguments and doubled up the extra hobbits on Molly.
Thoughts? Disagree with me, and/or Butcher? What's your line-up?
The consensus we get from the books is:
Leanansidhe - Gandalf
Harry Dresden - Sam Gamgee or Gollum
Thomas Raith - Legolas
Sanya or Martin - Boromir
Karrin Murphy or Mouse - Gimli
Susan - Aragorn(?)
For the rest of it, I don't think anyone can argue with Molly being one of lamer Hobbits (I am thinking of Pippen, on account of Merry stabbing the Witch King), but aside from Harry, Thomas & Leanne, who gets which?
IMO:
Harry - Sam
Thomas - Legolas
Leanne - Gandalf
Susan - Frodo
Martin - Gollum
Sanya - Aragorn
Karrin - Boromir
Mouse - Gimli
Molly - Merry & Pippen
I chose Susan for Frodo, because as the mother of the kid they were going to rescue, she is the one at the heart of the quest, and she and Harry were closest to each other, so it fits if we stipulate Harry as Sam. I made Martin Gollum because he is a bad guy and all screwed-up in the head (and it maintains the dynamic with Susan/Frodo & Harry/Sam, because Harry was no big fan of his). Boromir, for the record, was a heroic character. He was not a villain who redeemed himself through sacrifice or a traitor. He was a tragic hero, and the tragic flaw that brought him down was caring for his country more than what his country represented, which made him vulnerable for a single MOMENT to an overwhleming temptation. A temptation that even superhuman creatures like Gandalf and Galadriel feared to confront. Boromir lacked their specific knowledge and understanding of the power he sought, which is why he fell - it was not out of malice or avarice or anything like that. He was simply flawed and human. With that in mind, I cannot countenance making Martin into Boromir. I picked Karrin, because she's a heroic warrior-type holding an office responsible for protecting a city, and scion of a family with a history of the same, who meets a tragic end (though admittedly not as final as Boromir's). Susan could also be a candidate for Boromir, but then you have to make Harry into Frodo, because absolutely no one else fits besides Maggie's parents, and now you need a new Sam (Mouse?) and who knows where you go from there. With those choices in mind, and the relative dramatic interchangability of Merry & Pippin (arguably there were two of them for no other reason than to allow them to be in two different places in RotK), I went with the characters' own arguments and doubled up the extra hobbits on Molly.
Thoughts? Disagree with me, and/or Butcher? What's your line-up?
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
So how did the Fellowship of the Dresden Files match up? (Spoilers for Changes)
13/04/2010 12:20:25 PM
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So now that we have those sorted out I'm trying to work out the other characters...
09/04/2013 04:39:20 PM
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I think Harry as Gandalf makes more sense, and that shifts things around
13/04/2013 06:30:45 AM
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