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Confusing likability with goodness Beqi Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM
I think that may be the issue. Arya and Robert are likable. And we want the people we like, who seem good, to be good. There are villains like Jaime who are evil and we like him anyway, though more people are trying to make him good now that he is more likable. Cersei and Theon, in my opinion, were never likable so it is easy to put them in the evil category and leave them there. Robert was kind of a weenie evil guy.
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ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Cannoli - 18/03/2010 02:04:24 PM 1376 Views
Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters lyringlas - 18/03/2010 02:32:48 PM 827 Views
Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters Macharius - 18/03/2010 06:34:29 PM 774 Views
Exactly. Werthead - 18/03/2010 09:07:56 PM 834 Views
I have never heard anyone defend Cersei. Tom - 18/03/2010 07:04:33 PM 836 Views
Confusing likability with goodness Beqi - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM 830 Views
Arya may not be "good"... ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:15:46 PM 882 Views
Do you think a child can be evil? *NM* Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:18:06 PM 352 Views
We sometimes hear about kids doing horrible things ironclad - 18/03/2010 09:41:30 PM 711 Views
Is that because they may not understand the consequences of their actions? Beqi - 18/03/2010 09:45:33 PM 787 Views
Most likely, yes. Plus their reasons for doing bad things lack deeper inferior motives. ironclad - 18/03/2010 10:09:25 PM 818 Views
Arya is old enough to understand cause and effect... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:04:31 PM 915 Views
Soldiers do the same thing. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:23:35 AM 748 Views
Just what I was about to say, yeah *NM* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:55:47 AM 322 Views
Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... Napoleon62 - 19/03/2010 11:24:16 PM 1137 Views
Re: Soldiers kill for the sake of their country, their cause, or their hope... LadyLorraine - 20/03/2010 12:29:55 AM 771 Views
Arya is not a soldier. Soldiers are not individually responsible for the results of war. Cannoli - 20/03/2010 11:22:43 PM 925 Views
Arya is legitimately the most evil... Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 09:45:04 PM 1096 Views
No, she's not A Deathwatch Guard - 18/03/2010 11:45:23 PM 769 Views
Cersei doesn't have true justification Napoleon62 - 18/03/2010 11:47:44 PM 890 Views
what makes ambition better? LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 03:30:04 AM 739 Views
*nods* ironclad - 19/03/2010 07:58:31 AM 860 Views
what he said! especially about Cersei being seriously mentally ill *NM* imlad - 19/03/2010 04:38:19 AM 292 Views
Re: Arya is legitimately the most evil... Cannoli - 19/03/2010 10:50:56 PM 755 Views
I was looking forward to his response as well. LadyLorraine - 19/03/2010 11:13:35 PM 864 Views
Nope Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:23:19 PM 924 Views
to be accurate, the child was not yet disabled when he was pushed from the tower imlad - 20/03/2010 10:52:42 PM 873 Views
ah, thank you. it's been a while since I read that bit *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 02:58:10 AM 306 Views
Evil is such a limiting term to use. Werthead - 20/03/2010 12:18:24 PM 728 Views
Try reading the books Cannoli - 20/03/2010 10:50:01 PM 940 Views
just out of curiousity LadyLorraine - 21/03/2010 03:01:02 AM 824 Views
Sort of. Cannoli - 22/03/2010 11:37:04 PM 732 Views
I've read them a few times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 01:47:52 PM 824 Views
Just a "few" times? fionwe1987 - 21/03/2010 06:07:14 PM 876 Views
Only three times. Werthead - 21/03/2010 11:20:12 PM 781 Views
Who is Jon Connington? Napoleon62 - 22/03/2010 01:30:44 AM 918 Views
Jon Connington- Hand to Aerys. Lost to Hoster, Eddard and Robert. Exiled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:09:59 AM 368 Views
people seem to be forgetting imlad - 21/03/2010 09:11:04 PM 887 Views
Some of that is BS... fionwe1987 - 22/03/2010 04:18:06 AM 808 Views
Thank you. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:59:38 AM 814 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 23/03/2010 03:58:24 AM 274 Views
ROFLMAO. Most people complain that my values are medieval & out of touch with the modern world! Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:54:58 AM 1152 Views
It really shocks that I'm going to say this. LadyLorraine - 23/03/2010 03:23:28 AM 740 Views
To clarify, "evil" means VERY, VERY BAD. Cannoli - 23/03/2010 01:12:39 AM 984 Views
your problem is you seem equate legality with morality imlad - 24/03/2010 04:07:42 AM 729 Views
I was responding to someone ELSE making that error Cannoli - 24/03/2010 03:13:36 PM 1010 Views
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