Re: Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution.
wahooka Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 11:05:22 PM
Writing on the Russian Revolution has been complicated by the antagonism between the United States and the Soviet Union for most of the twentieth century, leading historians to question how effectively they could both remain objective and provide analysis. Furthermore interpretations of the Russian Revolution have been approached in two discrete ways, with the fall of the Soviet Union demarcating two distinct periods of writing on the subject. However, this tension and division has not prevented the historiography of the Russian Revolution from being a topic that has been interpreted in different ways vis-à-vis the decade in which the work was written that also closely paralleled trends in historical writing. Finally, the importance of the Russian Revolution for subsequent twentieth-century history continues to generate interest in the subject and there could be more options for study and interpretation given the current trends that focus on comparative, transnational, and global histories.
The approach taken by historians to the subject of the Russian Revolution has generated debates on just what the role of the historian is vis-à-vis a state which was, at the time of writing, an antagonistic foe of the state in which the historian currently resided in. Writing after the collapse of the Soviet Union, in The Russian Revolution, 1917, Rex Wade stated that, “the collapse of the Soviet Union has made it easier to put the Russian Revolution into better historical perspective. Writing on it no longer involves an implied judgment on an existing government and system.” [1] For Wade, historians who wrote on the Russian Revolution before the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 were making judgments on the enemy of the United States. He does not state this in the selected quote, but the existence of the Cold War cannot be discounted. It is part of the social and cultural milieu in which historians wrote in before 1991. Whether those judgments are negative or positive, they did complicate matters for historians attempting to understand the genesis of the Soviet Union.
It is worth to mention that this Soviet Union - After Soviet Union division in interpretation of the Russian Revolution goes the other way around as well, when the Soviet (and Soviet Block) historians of Soviet Era were influenced by propaganda and their works were distorted from reality.
Incidentally, I inadvertently managed to borrow a Soviet Era copy of History of Canada for my thesis last year. I started browsing through the book and found out that a lot of chapters were called like Class Struggle in Canada and similarly. So, I went and looked when it was published and found out not only that it was published in 80's but it was also a translation of Russian authors. The book was absolutely unusable for my thesis, I don't know why they still have books like this in the library, but it was pretty funny just to see the names of chapters.
As you later mention, one of the biggest advantages of today's historians, aside from the fall of the Iron Curtain and the cessation of enmities, is the fact that they are able to use original documents and other information, but I still wonder how much data has been lost, tampered with or is still being censored.
So, let's talk about Doctor Zhivago.
15/03/2010 12:51:09 PM
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I liked it a lot.
15/03/2010 03:24:34 PM
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I mostly agree with your points, but I'm not sure Zhivago was ever disillusioned with revolution.
15/03/2010 09:19:54 PM
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Re: I mostly agree with your points, but I'm not sure Zhivago was ever disillusioned with revolution
15/03/2010 09:57:29 PM
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Yes, it's the Soviet state, not the revolution, that he hates.
15/03/2010 11:16:29 PM
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There will be more later. Much more. So lets start at the beginning.
15/03/2010 04:22:15 PM
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... I'm clearly lacking in braincells.
15/03/2010 05:03:35 PM
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... yes, you moved to scotland? *NM*
15/03/2010 05:42:21 PM
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I didn't notice the Anna Karenina connection. That's a good point.
15/03/2010 09:26:41 PM
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Yes. Perhaps we should tell the non-Russian speakers/readers that the name of the protagonist,
15/03/2010 10:22:39 PM
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Zhivago is the Church Slavonic genitive singular of живой (zhivoi), "living"
15/03/2010 11:18:23 PM
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I thought this was a great read, and I'm sure I've missed a lot, which will make a reread good too.
15/03/2010 05:16:19 PM
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On balance, there IS a love story. Just not quite the one that most people think.
15/03/2010 09:34:20 PM
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I noticed that as well
15/03/2010 09:42:04 PM
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Yes. This is what I was going to say, just not as articulately.
*NM*
15/03/2010 10:12:33 PM
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My initial thoughts
15/03/2010 06:02:21 PM
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Re: My initial thoughts
15/03/2010 08:54:15 PM
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There appears to be a lull, so some background - How many of you have read anything about
15/03/2010 08:19:07 PM
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I've read bits & pieces.
15/03/2010 08:33:41 PM
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Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution.
15/03/2010 08:47:42 PM
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Re: Ok, since you're interested, here is some "light" reading for you. Approach with caution.
15/03/2010 11:05:22 PM
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Thank you for calling it "light" reading. The quotation marks were comforting.
17/03/2010 09:56:26 AM
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I will read and respond to this when I remember to bring my glasses home from work! *NM*
17/03/2010 06:14:31 PM
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Fiction or non-fiction?
15/03/2010 09:21:04 PM
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Familiar with the history, though I've never exhaustively studied the time period.
16/03/2010 02:20:23 PM
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Why would you consider this a classic? What made it so good or profound for (plural) you?
16/03/2010 11:19:23 PM
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Put a question mark at the end of the first sentence and read my response. *NM*
17/03/2010 12:09:58 AM
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Some questions.
19/03/2010 08:27:38 AM
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As an addendum to what Greg wrote:
19/03/2010 05:56:56 PM
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The Possessed: Adventures with Russian Books and the People Who Read Them
21/03/2010 05:34:03 PM
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It looks a bit strained to me.
22/03/2010 03:28:34 AM
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So far the reviews are pretty glowing, as are the Amazon reviewers.
22/03/2010 01:44:19 PM
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In other news, I read about 100 pages of The Island at the Center of the World.
22/03/2010 03:48:47 PM
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I finished it last night - the last 100+ pages rather fast, considering how long the whole took.
21/04/2010 01:00:50 AM
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