Viewing history through a literary prism is usually an injustice to the study of history.
Tom Send a noteboard - 07/02/2010 03:16:30 PM
Try studying the Plantagenets by reading Shakespeare's King John, or even World War I by reading All Quiet on the Western Front. You will often see fabrications, inconsistencies, errors and above all, you will see a particular view that is limited in scope and perspective. While War and Peace may be a fun read, it doesn't really give people the reality of the Napoleonic era.
I find it amusing that you have found some explanation for the monotony of the book. I find your excuse for the poor style used in the book to be inadequate, and of course it fundamentally ignores the key point that the style remains monotonous whether or not it is explained, and that monotony renders the book unreadable to a great many people. Furthermore, if one has to delve into the minutiae of the politics of an insignificant country to even begin to understand the bizarre actions of a family in a work of fiction, I think the criticism of character motivations can and should stand.
I may perhaps be overly critical of this book because it was universally praised with such signal and obsequious effusions of compliments and hyperbole that, when I read it, I could not help but be underwhelmed and note the irritating flaws that for me made it virtually unreadable. If I had expected less I might have been less critical.
I think ultimately that my problem with Eco is his fascination with the grotesque. It was a minor and acceptable part of The Name of the Rose and almost non-existent in Foucault's Pendulum, which I like the best out of what he wrote, but very prominently on display in Baudolino. His Infinity of Lists at times reads like the source material for his books, and I picked up once again on his infatuation with the grotesque and repulsive.
I find it amusing that you have found some explanation for the monotony of the book. I find your excuse for the poor style used in the book to be inadequate, and of course it fundamentally ignores the key point that the style remains monotonous whether or not it is explained, and that monotony renders the book unreadable to a great many people. Furthermore, if one has to delve into the minutiae of the politics of an insignificant country to even begin to understand the bizarre actions of a family in a work of fiction, I think the criticism of character motivations can and should stand.
I may perhaps be overly critical of this book because it was universally praised with such signal and obsequious effusions of compliments and hyperbole that, when I read it, I could not help but be underwhelmed and note the irritating flaws that for me made it virtually unreadable. If I had expected less I might have been less critical.
I think ultimately that my problem with Eco is his fascination with the grotesque. It was a minor and acceptable part of The Name of the Rose and almost non-existent in Foucault's Pendulum, which I like the best out of what he wrote, but very prominently on display in Baudolino. His Infinity of Lists at times reads like the source material for his books, and I picked up once again on his infatuation with the grotesque and repulsive.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas.
05/02/2010 05:15:17 PM
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Tough Subject, censorship
05/02/2010 07:24:39 PM
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I think I would be worried if a school had more than one copy of Mein Kampf
06/02/2010 06:30:08 PM
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I was mostly just using it as an example, since it was what the article talked about
06/02/2010 10:20:08 PM
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I actually ran into this in high school.
05/02/2010 08:33:10 PM
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I found that we covered a lot about American Indian issues in US History.
06/02/2010 06:23:16 PM
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Anyone interested in German history in particular and European history in general should read it.
05/02/2010 08:47:14 PM
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I think jane austen and the brontes would be good to leave in
06/02/2010 03:44:10 AM
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I read a great number of books I don't necesarily agree with, so I'm on your side.
06/02/2010 06:19:21 PM
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Hmm.
05/02/2010 09:11:13 PM
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It's interesting that many of the most influential books are hardly ever read.
06/02/2010 06:15:19 PM
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Love the survey.
05/02/2010 09:42:29 PM
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Interesting. Do you really think that Nineteen Eighty-Four is plausible?
06/02/2010 10:13:56 AM
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Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas.
05/02/2010 11:09:41 PM
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Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas.
05/02/2010 11:47:08 PM
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I agree with most of that. But to quote our eminent Camilla...
06/02/2010 10:30:15 AM
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Re: I agree with most of that. But to quote our eminent Camilla...
06/02/2010 12:25:37 PM
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I agree on the Shakespeare (and mentioned that below).
06/02/2010 05:54:50 PM
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Re: I agree on the Shakespeare (and mentioned that below).
06/02/2010 06:05:48 PM
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I don't think high school students need to discuss possibilities for staging.
07/02/2010 01:36:03 AM
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nice post
06/02/2010 01:27:23 AM
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Re: nice post
06/02/2010 01:29:34 AM
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A lot of people think von Clausewitz is important.
06/02/2010 05:51:44 PM
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More than Sun Tzu? *NM*
06/02/2010 08:31:44 PM
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Sun Zi was relatively unknown in the West until recently.
07/02/2010 01:30:06 AM
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Sure, but he could still have influenced world history by influencing Asia... *NM*
07/02/2010 01:35:17 AM
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Doubtful.
07/02/2010 01:41:01 AM
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In many ways, books are like automobiles or power tools...
06/02/2010 11:08:01 AM
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The interesting thing, to my mind, is that the BBC article talks about "Lebensraum".
06/02/2010 04:46:34 PM
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And nary a thing about Alois Hitler, no?
06/02/2010 05:52:50 PM
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I have yet to see a literature teacher in schools teach history through literature.
07/02/2010 01:33:57 AM
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But yet I know several history teachers who have done this
07/02/2010 10:38:49 AM
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Viewing history through a literary prism is usually an injustice to the study of history.
07/02/2010 03:16:30 PM
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No, the opposite: viewing literature through historical lens is what I'm interested in
07/02/2010 03:31:04 PM
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Hmm.
06/02/2010 11:33:02 PM
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I will answer yiour survey but may I ask a question first? What did you think of Steinbeck?
07/02/2010 06:20:52 AM
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The Grapes of Wrath was required in Sophomore English in HS. And I loved it.
07/02/2010 03:25:55 PM
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