In many ways, books are like automobiles or power tools...
Larry Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 11:08:01 AM
Germany is now grappling with a proposed move to print and sell a new critical edition of Mein Kampf when Hitler's automatic 70-year postmortem copyright expires in 2015. It's not clear just yet that we'll be able to preorder so that amazon.de can make sure we get delivery on the day of its release (presumably May 1, 2015 would be the first available day), however. The Bavarian government has played the politically correct card to try to keep it from being published or sold in Germany, despite the fact that it is available everywhere else (and apparently very popular in Gaza).
On the one hand, the book is little more than an extended rant by a sociopath that tragically led to the implementation of most of what it advocated and the deaths of tens of millions of people. On the other hand, it bashes the French...I mean, on the other hand, precisely because of its consequences it is one of the "great books" of history ("infamous" is just as fitting an epithet as "great").
As someone who has read Hitler's book (and the sequel, the so-called "Black Book"), I'd have to disagree slightly there. There are some interesting elements on the application of mass media to reinforce messages, as well as some intriguing comments on the efficacy and utility of religion (then again, my MA research was focused on Hitler's evolving perspectives on Christianity), but that is like finding a glint of a semi-precious stone buried amidst the steaming pile of turgid prose and repetitive harangues of Jews, capitalists, etc.
The article got me thinking about censorship of books and the dissemination of ideas, which led me to think about books that are affirmatively chosen for mandatory reading in schools as well. This train of thought was broken by a desire to have breakfast, but when I returned to it I decided to post a survey here.
1. Are there any books that should ever be censored? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are censored and for whom?
Books are ideas in printed, codified form. As such they are very dangerous in the hands of the untrained and unformed. I wouldn't hand Jacques Derrida's Of Grammatology to a middle school student, as the risk of misunderstanding what was going on there (if anything was going on there might be more apt ) is extremely high. Much as we'd like to argue otherwise, sometimes readers are not mature enough to process what is happening. Just as I wouldn't subject a 4 year-old to watching Faces of Death, I don't think I'd allow a 9 year-old to read Justine...at least not until mind had developed beyond concrete operational levels and perhaps not until that child's body had developed somewhat, so s/he could understand more what was going on
As for which ones, that's the tricky part, as people develop at various stages. Who should decide? Parents, foremost, then those that act in loco parentis, I suppose.
2. Should any books be withheld from libraries in high schools? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are withheld?
See above. I don't think complex metaphysical tracts would be suitable for those who read at the level of Dick and Jane But I guess this is just a roundabout way should there be books devoted to hot (straight/gay/bi/beastiality/masturbation/etc.) sex be made available to (pre)teens? Those perhaps are best served by being covered in teen health classes (which ought to have more rigorous standards and cover these topics, compared to the joke 5 minute assembly on how to put on a rubber when I was in HS). The Anarchist's Cookbook would fall under those books that can be dangerous for those with untrained/unformed minds. Perhaps school libraries ought to be more closely coordinated with what is to be taught in schools, so the reference materials can better reflect what students are being taught/trained to process?
3. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think have had a massive impact on the world, and at least one that is frequently overlooked on lists of that sort.
I guess the I Ching is quasi-religious?
The Arabian Nights
Mein Kampf
Das Kapital
Writings by Avicenna, Plato, and Aristotle (six, I know, but still...) Oh, and each of these latter three are more likely to be overlooked in these times.
4. Do you think any of the books you listed in point 3 should be read in schools as mandatory reading? Why or why not?
Depends on the grade level. I think all but the first are more suitable for young adults and not for middle school or younger children, due to their lack of experience and their understandings of the world being so undeveloped at that stage.
5. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think SHOULD be mandatory reading in schools (or at least "on the curriculum" if you don't like the word "mandatory"), and why.
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And most of the ones I listed above, minus perhaps Das Kapital (replace with The Communist Manifesto) and Mein Kampf (to be replaced with Night for HS students).
6. Do you think schools are too careful in choosing books due to pressure from those who would censor the curriculum? If so, which sorts of books do you feel are unjustly censored?
In some ways, yes. In other ways, I think they are extremely careless in their purported mission to develop students' minds. Then again, there are so many other forces (parents, mass cultural entities, etc.) that often have a vested interest in students not developing critical thinking skills as soon as they display signs of being capable of expressing independent thought.
As for the types of books that are "unjustly censored," I could be listing examples all night and day. Anything from philosophical tracts to biographies.
7. Do you think schools place too much emphasis on particular themes or ideas when choosing their curriculum? If so, which ones?
To a degree, yes. Too much emphasis on linear, binary processing of texts that are more complex than that. Literature that focuses on plot and singular approaches to processing the text. Things like that.
8. Are there any authors you would remove from school curricula who are presently well-represented? Why?
I would reduce the over-representation of Victorian writers in favor of more Beat-era authors, due to the cultural relevance factor (that and Victorian authors are often chosen because so many stories then were virtually devoid of anything "scandalous.")
9. Are there any authors not represented that you would like to see added generally? Why?
More Ginsberg, more Boom Generation authors from Latin America, more post-colonialist authors from Africa and Asia. Their voices are not heard much in schools these days.
10. Is there ONE book (aside from religious works) that you think EVERYONE should read? If so, what book and why?
I don't have such thoughts, so no book will be mentioned here
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie
Je suis méchant.
Je suis méchant.
Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas.
05/02/2010 05:15:17 PM
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Tough Subject, censorship
05/02/2010 07:24:39 PM
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I think I would be worried if a school had more than one copy of Mein Kampf
06/02/2010 06:30:08 PM
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I was mostly just using it as an example, since it was what the article talked about
06/02/2010 10:20:08 PM
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I actually ran into this in high school.
05/02/2010 08:33:10 PM
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I found that we covered a lot about American Indian issues in US History.
06/02/2010 06:23:16 PM
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Anyone interested in German history in particular and European history in general should read it.
05/02/2010 08:47:14 PM
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I think jane austen and the brontes would be good to leave in
06/02/2010 03:44:10 AM
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I read a great number of books I don't necesarily agree with, so I'm on your side.
06/02/2010 06:19:21 PM
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Hmm.
05/02/2010 09:11:13 PM
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It's interesting that many of the most influential books are hardly ever read.
06/02/2010 06:15:19 PM
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Love the survey.
05/02/2010 09:42:29 PM
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Interesting. Do you really think that Nineteen Eighty-Four is plausible?
06/02/2010 10:13:56 AM
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Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas.
05/02/2010 11:09:41 PM
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Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas.
05/02/2010 11:47:08 PM
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I agree with most of that. But to quote our eminent Camilla...
06/02/2010 10:30:15 AM
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Re: I agree with most of that. But to quote our eminent Camilla...
06/02/2010 12:25:37 PM
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I agree on the Shakespeare (and mentioned that below).
06/02/2010 05:54:50 PM
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Re: I agree on the Shakespeare (and mentioned that below).
06/02/2010 06:05:48 PM
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I don't think high school students need to discuss possibilities for staging.
07/02/2010 01:36:03 AM
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nice post
06/02/2010 01:27:23 AM
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Re: nice post
06/02/2010 01:29:34 AM
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A lot of people think von Clausewitz is important.
06/02/2010 05:51:44 PM
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More than Sun Tzu? *NM*
06/02/2010 08:31:44 PM
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Sun Zi was relatively unknown in the West until recently.
07/02/2010 01:30:06 AM
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Sure, but he could still have influenced world history by influencing Asia... *NM*
07/02/2010 01:35:17 AM
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Doubtful.
07/02/2010 01:41:01 AM
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In many ways, books are like automobiles or power tools...
06/02/2010 11:08:01 AM
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The interesting thing, to my mind, is that the BBC article talks about "Lebensraum".
06/02/2010 04:46:34 PM
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And nary a thing about Alois Hitler, no?
06/02/2010 05:52:50 PM
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I have yet to see a literature teacher in schools teach history through literature.
07/02/2010 01:33:57 AM
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But yet I know several history teachers who have done this
07/02/2010 10:38:49 AM
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Viewing history through a literary prism is usually an injustice to the study of history.
07/02/2010 03:16:30 PM
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No, the opposite: viewing literature through historical lens is what I'm interested in
07/02/2010 03:31:04 PM
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Hmm.
06/02/2010 11:33:02 PM
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I will answer yiour survey but may I ask a question first? What did you think of Steinbeck?
07/02/2010 06:20:52 AM
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The Grapes of Wrath was required in Sophomore English in HS. And I loved it.
07/02/2010 03:25:55 PM
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