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Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. Camilla Send a noteboard - 05/02/2010 11:09:41 PM
Germany is now grappling with a proposed move to print and sell a new critical edition of Mein Kampf when Hitler's automatic 70-year postmortem copyright expires in 2015. It's not clear just yet that we'll be able to preorder so that amazon.de can make sure we get delivery on the day of its release (presumably May 1, 2015 would be the first available day), however. The Bavarian government has played the politically correct card to try to keep it from being published or sold in Germany, despite the fact that it is available everywhere else (and apparently very popular in Gaza).

On the one hand, the book is little more than an extended rant by a sociopath that tragically led to the implementation of most of what it advocated and the deaths of tens of millions of people. On the other hand, it bashes the French...I mean, on the other hand, precisely because of its consequences it is one of the "great books" of history ("infamous" is just as fitting an epithet as "great").

The article got me thinking about censorship of books and the dissemination of ideas, which led me to think about books that are affirmatively chosen for mandatory reading in schools as well. This train of thought was broken by a desire to have breakfast, but when I returned to it I decided to post a survey here.

1. Are there any books that should ever be censored? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are censored and for whom?


I am tempted to suggest Battlefield Earth because of its immense shitness, but I am not going to. I don't believe in censoring books.

2. Should any books be withheld from libraries in high schools? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are withheld?


Mmmmno. I don't think so. High school should be a time when you are allowed to explore literature and philosophy freely.

3. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think have had a massive impact on the world, and at least one that is frequently overlooked on lists of that sort.


Aristotle's Poetics without which our literature would be radically different, and if our literature were I strongly believe we would be, too.

Geoffrey of Monmouth's History of the Kings of Britain, without which we would (probably) not have Arthur and (more certainly) not Merlin, and European Literature would be massively different.

Mary Wollstonecraft's A Vindication of the Rights of Woman for obvious reasons.

Charles Darwin's Origin of the Species, again for obvious reasons.

Isaac Newtons Principia Mathematica, I suppose. Although I could probably replace that with some physicist or other.

This is a rather random list, but that is what you get when you ask for five (a random number). And I will admit my prejudice towards the humanities and women's rights.

4. Do you think any of the books you listed in point 3 should be read in schools as mandatory reading? Why or why not?


Depends on the level. I think most high school students can handle the first three. The other two, I am not sure. Particularly as Darwin has been outpaced and Newton might be too technical (I never read it).

5. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think SHOULD be mandatory reading in schools (or at least "on the curriculum" if you don't like the word "mandatory"), and why.


High school, right?

Palmer's A History of the Modern World
Herodotus' Histories
Dumas' The Three Musketeers (or other book labelled as classic but fun)
Benjamin's Childhood in Berlin around 1900
Nietzsche's The Gay Science
6. Do you think schools are too careful in choosing books due to pressure from those who would censor the curriculum? If so, which sorts of books do you feel are unjustly censored?


In some countries, yes.
And the type of book censored would seem to depend on the current fad.

7. Do you think schools place too much emphasis on particular themes or ideas when choosing their curriculum? If so, which ones?


Yes. Or rather, there is an unfortunate tendency to introduce kids to classics that are interesting only if analysed. This creates the perception that old literature cannot be entertaining, which leads to a lack of interest in exploration outside of school.

Simultaneously, and somewhat paradoxically (in that the former seems tied to an over-emphasis on the analytical), there seems to be a perception that kids must be sheltered from old texts (I assume because someone thinks that old means difficult?) -- Aristotle's Poetics is neither long nor difficult, and it is central to almost any discussion of literature in the West. Why it is not read in school baffles the mind.

8. Are there any authors you would remove from school curricula who are presently well-represented? Why?


Mmmnah. Well, possibly some of the drier naturalists, certainly in Norway. Reading Jonas Lie in high school is a serious faux pas when it comes to inspiring a love of literature.

9. Are there any authors not represented that you would like to see added generally? Why?


In Norway, Bjørneboe would be a nice addition. He is unfortunately downplayed in school.

10. Is there ONE book (aside from religious works) that you think EVERYONE should read? If so, what book and why?


Um. That is a bit of an impossible choice, but perhaps because I just glanced at my book shelf and its absence caught my eye, Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco. Because it highlights the possiblity of finding patterns that are not necessarily a reflection of Truth once the material is reach enough. Ask me again in half an hour, and I will have changed my mind and decided that another book entirely is indispensable.
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