But that point I was making was that Martin is far more deserving of the criticism "The setting is typical fantasy scape" than Jordan.
Sure, Martin's medieval world is more accurate. But the landscape, the political situation... those are far more generic than Jordan's is.
Jordan's world can barely be called medieval. And certainly, few fantasies have attempted to create a female-dominant society, then reflected the consequences of that on the history, politics and status of their world, as well as their plot and characters.
(And before someone says it, I think RJ did overdo this aspect, and the execution was sometimes clumsy. But overall, it is rather well done, and the manner in which he has let this factor permeate everything from the conversation of characters to the customs of the people is impressive.)
Sure, Martin's medieval world is more accurate. But the landscape, the political situation... those are far more generic than Jordan's is.
Jordan's world can barely be called medieval. And certainly, few fantasies have attempted to create a female-dominant society, then reflected the consequences of that on the history, politics and status of their world, as well as their plot and characters.
(And before someone says it, I think RJ did overdo this aspect, and the execution was sometimes clumsy. But overall, it is rather well done, and the manner in which he has let this factor permeate everything from the conversation of characters to the customs of the people is impressive.)
Farah Mendlesohn and Edward James on RJ, Goodkind, and Martin
07/12/2009 02:48:45 AM
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Pretty sure Nynaeve did not have red hair. Also pretty sure she wasn't a priestess.
07/12/2009 02:54:23 AM
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I think it was a tongue-in-cheek reference to an archetype, but yes, there are some errors here
07/12/2009 02:56:00 AM
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Re: Farah Mendlesohn and Edward James on RJ, Goodkind, and Martin
07/12/2009 04:38:07 AM
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Overall, a valid assessment.
07/12/2009 02:07:47 PM
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Nynaeve doesn't have red hair! She has brown hair!
07/12/2009 09:29:07 PM
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She's not a priestess, either. Other than "red-haired priestess" the rest was 100% valid.
08/12/2009 12:39:07 AM
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I mentioned her not being a priestess in my earlier post.
09/12/2009 03:23:12 AM
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Don't you think that, if that were corrected, the entries would be pretty much valid?
09/12/2009 09:12:55 PM
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Agree for the most part. When does the book officially come out?
08/12/2009 07:51:39 PM
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Book's been out since the summer, in the UK anyways
09/12/2009 02:33:05 AM
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Point taken. Despite not being the target audience, I'd still like to take a look at it.
09/12/2009 10:04:38 PM
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Erikson is like Martin? That's ridiculous!
09/12/2009 01:43:18 AM
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Influenced isn't the same as 'like'.
21/12/2009 06:04:53 PM
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So, you're right because you're right?
28/12/2009 03:25:33 AM
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Only because I'm willing to be honest even about things that I enjoy. *NM*
07/01/2010 06:00:02 PM
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I think fionwe has a point - it's not some kind of literature/non-literature divide.
08/01/2010 08:37:31 PM
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Actually, aSoIaF has one of the more accurate depictions of feudalism in modern fantasy. *NM*
08/01/2010 07:33:22 PM
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I agree, but that wasn't the point...
09/01/2010 03:11:16 AM
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