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Book of the New Sun is very early 80's and is almost inarguably a classic of the genre. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 06/12/2009 12:26:55 AM
1. The Lord of the Rings - so classic it should almost be excluded from lists since it's assumed it will be there
2. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
3. Le Morte d'Arthur by Sir Thomas Malory
4. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader by C.S. Lewis
5. The High King by Lloyd Alexander
6. The Worm Ouroboros by E.R. Eddison

About number one, I mean. I had to look up all of his authors except Melville, and having done so it seems to me the list would be better titled "The Six Best Contemporary Fantasy Novels" since none were published before 1980, and only one before I graduated HS. Wikipedias articles on M. John Harrison and Wolfe comment on the influence of Jack Vance on both, yet Vance doesn't make the list, which I find very revealing. It goes without saying I think your list about a thousand times better.
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Six best fantasy novels? Larry - 04/12/2009 05:54:54 AM 1761 Views
Best fantasy authors Tavi - 04/12/2009 07:01:48 AM 1453 Views
Have you read Robin Hobb? *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:01:23 PM 730 Views
I have, and wasn't really impressed Tavi - 04/12/2009 10:08:25 PM 1285 Views
You definitely read the wrong stuff first Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:12:07 AM 1383 Views
Agreed. unr3stricted - 09/12/2009 09:55:12 PM 1286 Views
Only read two. Book of the New Sun definitely deserves that spot. Mieville, not so much. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:06:45 AM 1459 Views
Interesting. Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:21:04 PM 1322 Views
Why Mieville, if I may ask? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:33:43 PM 740 Views
I didn't mean that to be a reply to you, but still Werthead - 05/12/2009 03:15:36 AM 1444 Views
No worries. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:52:11 AM 1335 Views
But the list was for favorite books, not favorite or most important authors A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:25:13 AM 1275 Views
It was for "best" books. I realize that has a lot of meanings, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:37:01 PM 583 Views
Hm... good point A Deathwatch Guard - 06/12/2009 02:19:13 AM 1063 Views
Glen Cook is radically overrated. Werthead - 05/12/2009 04:09:07 PM 1418 Views
Well, he's at least part of the wave that humanized fantasy. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:36:29 PM 1162 Views
In the US, yes. Elsewhere, no, because they didn't know about him. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:36:31 PM 1293 Views
Interesting. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:15:37 AM 1241 Views
Two years? It was published in 2000... *NM* Legolas - 05/12/2009 09:03:33 PM 492 Views
Nine years is like two. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:25:49 AM 667 Views
I've yet to read a Gene Wolfe. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:26:54 AM 1211 Views
Yes, yes, yes. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 02:35:45 AM 1165 Views
You know I directly added almost all of those Wolfe quotes there, right? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:26:40 AM 1299 Views
I just find Mieville's prose exceptionally standard. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:25:05 AM 1309 Views
Isn't that almost a contradiction of terms there? Larry - 06/12/2009 07:45:47 AM 1239 Views
It's remarkable for its normalcy because so many people praise it? Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:11:18 AM 1171 Views
Who the heck are these people? *NM* ironclad - 04/12/2009 12:46:48 PM 717 Views
I've never heard of any of them either.... *NM* Fantasy - 05/12/2009 02:58:11 AM 941 Views
Literati Larry - 06/12/2009 05:27:28 AM 1148 Views
Yeah you're so much better than us *NM* ironclad - 06/12/2009 12:00:27 PM 651 Views
Well, you can hardly expect a group to go around calling themselves "elitist snobs." *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:16:16 AM 623 Views
Is he trying to be cool by listing stuff that 90% of fantasy readers have never heard of? Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:05:46 PM 1223 Views
Actually, several of those books have been bestsellers and/or won several genre awards Larry - 06/12/2009 05:28:18 AM 1214 Views
I'm very ambivalent about A Wizard of Earthsea AgentOrange - 04/12/2009 05:18:00 PM 1223 Views
Possibly has to do with the times in which it was written/read Larry - 06/12/2009 05:29:27 AM 1179 Views
My Best Six best fantasy novels Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:44:12 PM 973 Views
Re: My Best Six best fantasy novels *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:45:25 PM 561 Views
oops! *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:46:34 PM 603 Views
Re: Six best fantasy novels? Aeryn - 04/12/2009 09:06:18 PM 1324 Views
I really need to get around to reading Mists of Avalon. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 09:50:54 PM 1110 Views
Calenture Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:44:14 AM 1076 Views
That... sounds so cool. I'm going to check it out as soon as I get home. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:53:55 AM 1184 Views
Ooh, I need to get my hands on Calenture. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:27:34 AM 643 Views
And ha! I thought it might be you. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:29:13 AM 635 Views
I'll eventually get to those in the near future Larry - 06/12/2009 05:31:29 AM 1206 Views
I don't read or buy books anymore. Aeryn - 06/12/2009 11:45:33 PM 1219 Views
I understand that Larry - 07/12/2009 12:55:46 AM 1261 Views
Okay, I'll give it a shot Tom - 04/12/2009 10:12:47 PM 1303 Views
You might more mythopoeic material in your fantasies, don't you? *NM* Larry - 04/12/2009 11:22:33 PM 675 Views
Mythopoeic? Who...me? Tom - 05/12/2009 02:19:03 AM 1098 Views
Yes, you Larry - 05/12/2009 03:51:25 AM 1247 Views
The Blogger Seems to Agree With You. The Name With No Man - 05/12/2009 10:10:07 PM 1239 Views
Book of the New Sun is very early 80's and is almost inarguably a classic of the genre. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:26:55 AM 1263 Views
Never Read It, But All Accounts Support That View. The Name With No Man - 06/12/2009 02:44:17 PM 1381 Views
Bending the terms a bit... Larry - 04/12/2009 11:21:33 PM 1335 Views
n/a *NM* Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:46:45 AM 566 Views
I like Grossman's list a lot more than Henry's. *NM* Legolas - 04/12/2009 11:41:36 PM 624 Views
Here are mine, but I probably haven't really read enough fantasy to have a top 5 Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:16:13 AM 1114 Views
Have you tried any standalones recently? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:33:41 AM 1202 Views
I always end up wanting more Deadsy - 06/12/2009 05:53:11 AM 1197 Views
What if there were 50 more standalones that you could read that likely would be quite good? Larry - 06/12/2009 06:12:53 AM 1295 Views
The only one on his list I would think about agreeing with is Meiville. MightyYT - 05/12/2009 03:11:25 AM 1267 Views
Have you tried Mark Danielewski's House of Leaves yet? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:34:48 AM 1132 Views
No list is complete without Goodkind *NM* Choss Hauler - 05/12/2009 07:59:22 AM 682 Views
Sorry, I can't help it- no *porn* list is complete without Goodkind... *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:21:22 AM 532 Views
For me....: A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:36:42 AM 1294 Views
He certainly has a specific kind of taste. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:20:30 AM 1132 Views
Pfft! Larry - 06/12/2009 06:54:24 AM 1042 Views
Who are you asking?? rebelaessedai - 07/12/2009 08:09:25 PM 1155 Views
Might give this a go myself... rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:24:52 AM 1202 Views
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