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Why Mieville, if I may ask? *NM* Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 08:33:43 PM
A valid enough list, although I still need to read LITTLE, BIG.

My list of six key fantasy authors (not individual books, that's ridiculously limiting) would be:

J.R.R. Tolkien
Gene Wolfe
Jack Vance
China Mieville
George R.R. Martin
Terry Pratchett

Probably nothing too cutting-edge there. I'm also thinkin Mervyn Peake should be on there but am not too sure which of the rest I'd lose to make room for him. Robert Holdstock and Robert E. Howard would be bubbling under, Neil Gaiman as well (for SANDMAN).

My SF ranking would be:

Kim Stanley Robinson
David Brin
Alastair Reynolds
Peter F. Hamilton
Alfred Bester
Frank Herbert

That's a more a list of who is good rather than 'influential/important', in which case obviously Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein and the whole enchilada would be on there. Roger Zelazny and Ian McDonald are bubbling under on that list.

In the case of both lists, ask me tomorrow and I'll give a different answer.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
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Six best fantasy novels? Larry - 04/12/2009 05:54:54 AM 2003 Views
Best fantasy authors Tavi - 04/12/2009 07:01:48 AM 1697 Views
Have you read Robin Hobb? *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:01:23 PM 853 Views
I have, and wasn't really impressed Tavi - 04/12/2009 10:08:25 PM 1514 Views
You definitely read the wrong stuff first Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:12:07 AM 1635 Views
Agreed. unr3stricted - 09/12/2009 09:55:12 PM 1493 Views
Only read two. Book of the New Sun definitely deserves that spot. Mieville, not so much. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:06:45 AM 1677 Views
Interesting. Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:21:04 PM 1544 Views
Why Mieville, if I may ask? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:33:43 PM 865 Views
I didn't mean that to be a reply to you, but still Werthead - 05/12/2009 03:15:36 AM 1668 Views
No worries. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:52:11 AM 1559 Views
But the list was for favorite books, not favorite or most important authors A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:25:13 AM 1476 Views
It was for "best" books. I realize that has a lot of meanings, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:37:01 PM 694 Views
Hm... good point A Deathwatch Guard - 06/12/2009 02:19:13 AM 1273 Views
Glen Cook is radically overrated. Werthead - 05/12/2009 04:09:07 PM 1622 Views
Well, he's at least part of the wave that humanized fantasy. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:36:29 PM 1411 Views
In the US, yes. Elsewhere, no, because they didn't know about him. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:36:31 PM 1494 Views
Interesting. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:15:37 AM 1440 Views
Two years? It was published in 2000... *NM* Legolas - 05/12/2009 09:03:33 PM 609 Views
Nine years is like two. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:25:49 AM 774 Views
I've yet to read a Gene Wolfe. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:26:54 AM 1439 Views
Yes, yes, yes. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 02:35:45 AM 1388 Views
You know I directly added almost all of those Wolfe quotes there, right? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:26:40 AM 1521 Views
I just find Mieville's prose exceptionally standard. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:25:05 AM 1544 Views
Isn't that almost a contradiction of terms there? Larry - 06/12/2009 07:45:47 AM 1436 Views
It's remarkable for its normalcy because so many people praise it? Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:11:18 AM 1362 Views
Who the heck are these people? *NM* ironclad - 04/12/2009 12:46:48 PM 832 Views
I've never heard of any of them either.... *NM* Fantasy - 05/12/2009 02:58:11 AM 1137 Views
Literati Larry - 06/12/2009 05:27:28 AM 1407 Views
Yeah you're so much better than us *NM* ironclad - 06/12/2009 12:00:27 PM 780 Views
Well, you can hardly expect a group to go around calling themselves "elitist snobs." *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:16:16 AM 736 Views
Is he trying to be cool by listing stuff that 90% of fantasy readers have never heard of? Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:05:46 PM 1444 Views
Actually, several of those books have been bestsellers and/or won several genre awards Larry - 06/12/2009 05:28:18 AM 1435 Views
I'm very ambivalent about A Wizard of Earthsea AgentOrange - 04/12/2009 05:18:00 PM 1431 Views
Possibly has to do with the times in which it was written/read Larry - 06/12/2009 05:29:27 AM 1391 Views
My Best Six best fantasy novels Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:44:12 PM 1181 Views
Re: My Best Six best fantasy novels *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:45:25 PM 665 Views
oops! *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:46:34 PM 702 Views
Re: Six best fantasy novels? Aeryn - 04/12/2009 09:06:18 PM 1545 Views
I really need to get around to reading Mists of Avalon. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 09:50:54 PM 1346 Views
Calenture Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:44:14 AM 1311 Views
That... sounds so cool. I'm going to check it out as soon as I get home. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:53:55 AM 1394 Views
Ooh, I need to get my hands on Calenture. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:27:34 AM 753 Views
And ha! I thought it might be you. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:29:13 AM 752 Views
I'll eventually get to those in the near future Larry - 06/12/2009 05:31:29 AM 1440 Views
I don't read or buy books anymore. Aeryn - 06/12/2009 11:45:33 PM 1431 Views
I understand that Larry - 07/12/2009 12:55:46 AM 1491 Views
Okay, I'll give it a shot Tom - 04/12/2009 10:12:47 PM 1536 Views
You might more mythopoeic material in your fantasies, don't you? *NM* Larry - 04/12/2009 11:22:33 PM 777 Views
Mythopoeic? Who...me? Tom - 05/12/2009 02:19:03 AM 1302 Views
Yes, you Larry - 05/12/2009 03:51:25 AM 1459 Views
The Blogger Seems to Agree With You. The Name With No Man - 05/12/2009 10:10:07 PM 1476 Views
Book of the New Sun is very early 80's and is almost inarguably a classic of the genre. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:26:55 AM 1490 Views
Never Read It, But All Accounts Support That View. The Name With No Man - 06/12/2009 02:44:17 PM 1574 Views
Bending the terms a bit... Larry - 04/12/2009 11:21:33 PM 1553 Views
n/a *NM* Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:46:45 AM 698 Views
I like Grossman's list a lot more than Henry's. *NM* Legolas - 04/12/2009 11:41:36 PM 737 Views
Here are mine, but I probably haven't really read enough fantasy to have a top 5 Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:16:13 AM 1319 Views
Have you tried any standalones recently? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:33:41 AM 1421 Views
I always end up wanting more Deadsy - 06/12/2009 05:53:11 AM 1406 Views
What if there were 50 more standalones that you could read that likely would be quite good? Larry - 06/12/2009 06:12:53 AM 1513 Views
The only one on his list I would think about agreeing with is Meiville. MightyYT - 05/12/2009 03:11:25 AM 1479 Views
Have you tried Mark Danielewski's House of Leaves yet? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:34:48 AM 1338 Views
No list is complete without Goodkind *NM* Choss Hauler - 05/12/2009 07:59:22 AM 792 Views
Sorry, I can't help it- no *porn* list is complete without Goodkind... *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:21:22 AM 622 Views
For me....: A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:36:42 AM 1522 Views
He certainly has a specific kind of taste. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:20:30 AM 1342 Views
Pfft! Larry - 06/12/2009 06:54:24 AM 1257 Views
Who are you asking?? rebelaessedai - 07/12/2009 08:09:25 PM 1363 Views
Might give this a go myself... rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:24:52 AM 1409 Views
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