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Polgara the Sorceress was maybe a bit late, but Aphrael is a ffair example Isaac Send a noteboard - 30/03/2013 10:16:26 PM

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View original postPolgara, Ce'Nedra, and later in his other well-known series Sephrenia, Ehlana, and Aphrael have a heavy flavor of Mary Sue to them which seems more clear when you recall that Leigh Eddings is credited as co-author to both series.


View original postThe others not so much - I was defending Ce'Nedra above to some extent in the sense that she didn't really annoy me, certainly not like Egwene, but I won't claim she is a particularly well-written female character.

Well I mostly loathe Egwene but she does come off a lot more real then Ce'Nedra, and she gets the shit kicked out of her regularly before losing her lover and going out in a blaze of glory. She's a bitch but she's very human. Moraine-> Polgara and Elayne -> Ce'nedra seem better comparisons and while RJ does a less than wonderful job with either of them they do come off better.

Polgara has her irritating qualities but she's not as bad until it gets rubbed in your nose with Sephrenia-clone and she fits the behavior of what you'd expect from the ancient super-sorceress, she's mor ejustified s a Mary-Sue, my biggest objection to her is that she never goes MIA Gandalf or Allanon style to let characters grow or develop without her there to help and overshadow. At least Belgarath gets a long phase of not being there in Queen of Sorcery followed by being weak and presumably powerless in Book 4.


View original postAphrael is just plain fun, and has the great advantage of not taking herself too seriously.

Aphrael is a pretty fun character, and the worship-me aspect is legitimized by being a goddess dependent on that behavior for her existence. I don't want to rag on Eddings too much, they're good reads.

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I was doing a reread of The Belgariad, and while I like it... - 27/03/2013 06:00:11 PM 1106 Views
Interesting. I certainly wouldn't make that comparison... - 27/03/2013 09:30:33 PM 879 Views
About Ce'Nedra - 28/03/2013 01:26:43 PM 834 Views
I guess, but they also learn not to take her too seriously at times like those. - 30/03/2013 09:18:10 PM 727 Views
True, but the fact that they indulge her at all irritates me - 31/03/2013 03:18:37 AM 784 Views
I think you're forgetting David wasn't the only Eddings writing those books - 29/03/2013 05:14:55 PM 792 Views
I liked the "secondary" female characters a lot, actually - 30/03/2013 06:50:07 PM 720 Views
The problem was the longer the secondary's stuck around the more Mary Sue they became - 30/03/2013 09:10:57 PM 755 Views
Yeah, the Hettar thing was pretty random, wasn't it - 31/03/2013 03:20:22 AM 749 Views
Mostly just undercooked - 31/03/2013 04:48:48 AM 695 Views
True, although I feel Polgara (in her own series) and Aphrael hold up well enough even in rereads. - 30/03/2013 09:12:31 PM 786 Views
Polgara the Sorceress was maybe a bit late, but Aphrael is a ffair example - 30/03/2013 10:16:26 PM 974 Views
Fair enough. - 31/03/2013 12:53:19 AM 868 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 31/03/2013 05:44:09 AM 873 Views
I wonder how many participants we would get for an Eddings reread... - 01/04/2013 12:10:00 PM 958 Views
He's a good reread, I just started back up - 01/04/2013 01:38:33 PM 831 Views
I started my reread of Polgara and the first few chapters are awful - 13/04/2013 09:36:01 PM 848 Views
Hm. - 13/04/2013 11:45:32 PM 814 Views
Re: Hm. - 14/04/2013 01:17:13 AM 1067 Views
Re: I was doing a reread of The Belgariad, and while I like it... - 20/04/2013 04:36:03 AM 1014 Views

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