I have to admit that I never actually studied it formally, but when I did look at it, it seemed pretty straightforward. The Latin sounds are preserved well in many words (such as cruce, for example).
As for Spanish vowels being "pure", I don't see how one can say that. The mutation of o > ue and e > ie is overwhelming, so where the Italian costare yields the inflected form costa, the Spanish costar yields cuesta. There are some verb forms where Italian has the same e > ie shift as Spanish (tiene, viene), but in non-verbal settings it retains the long e of Latin (i.e., bene, venerdì, merda, cento, festa, inverno, greco, etc.).
The mutation of consonants, of course, is far more advanced in Spanish, with c > g, t > d, f > h, pl > ll and the pronunciation of c and z with a decided lisp in Castilian, as well as the shift of v > b in sound (if not in writing), which you noted earlier.
Not only that, but there are certain bizarrities in Spanish, like how Latin perna, which meant the upper leg of a pig, became the word for a human leg. Also, why did the Latin equus disappear, replaced by cavallus (Sp. caballo) but equa remained for a female horse (Sp. yegua)?
There are Arabic loanwords, like albañil for "mason", and Basque loanwords like zorro.
While Italian does have some odd Arabic loanwords here and there, like ragazzo (from ragaṣ, messenger) and arsenale (from dar as-sina'a, workshop), they are far more infrequent.
And that's without even getting to all the American Indian words that litter Latin American Spanish like so many armadillo roadkills on a Texas highway.
As for Spanish vowels being "pure", I don't see how one can say that. The mutation of o > ue and e > ie is overwhelming, so where the Italian costare yields the inflected form costa, the Spanish costar yields cuesta. There are some verb forms where Italian has the same e > ie shift as Spanish (tiene, viene), but in non-verbal settings it retains the long e of Latin (i.e., bene, venerdì, merda, cento, festa, inverno, greco, etc.).
The mutation of consonants, of course, is far more advanced in Spanish, with c > g, t > d, f > h, pl > ll and the pronunciation of c and z with a decided lisp in Castilian, as well as the shift of v > b in sound (if not in writing), which you noted earlier.
Not only that, but there are certain bizarrities in Spanish, like how Latin perna, which meant the upper leg of a pig, became the word for a human leg. Also, why did the Latin equus disappear, replaced by cavallus (Sp. caballo) but equa remained for a female horse (Sp. yegua)?
There are Arabic loanwords, like albañil for "mason", and Basque loanwords like zorro.
While Italian does have some odd Arabic loanwords here and there, like ragazzo (from ragaṣ, messenger) and arsenale (from dar as-sina'a, workshop), they are far more infrequent.
And that's without even getting to all the American Indian words that litter Latin American Spanish like so many armadillo roadkills on a Texas highway.
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Trying to decide which of these is the best shared-world writer...
23/12/2012 02:23:35 AM
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I have heard of the Bertrand fella, and the Twelve Paladins but I haven't read any of his works
23/12/2012 02:58:41 AM
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I do intend to read Orlando Furioso (and Gerusalemme Liberata) at some point.
23/12/2012 08:30:03 AM
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What does Gerusalemme Liberata have to do with it?
23/12/2012 02:49:41 PM
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Never had a formal lesson in Italian
23/12/2012 05:17:48 PM
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I actually believe Italian to be the easiest Romance language
23/12/2012 07:26:43 PM
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It certainly isn't the hardest (Romanian and then French might be that)
23/12/2012 07:42:38 PM
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Romanian always seemed quite easy to me
24/12/2012 02:08:17 AM
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I think we're interpreting this a bit differently here
24/12/2012 04:15:46 AM
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So by "purity" you really mean the simplicity and limitation on vowel sounds...
26/12/2012 01:20:40 AM
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Yes, although I prefer it being in reference to a lesser range of variation in vowel sound to letter
26/12/2012 04:33:06 AM
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Eh, they're both famous Italian epics?
25/12/2012 07:06:37 PM
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You make it sound as though Medieval Italian is radically different from Modern Italian.
26/12/2012 01:15:24 AM
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From the aesthetic point of view I think that Ariosto is recognized as the best.
23/12/2012 02:54:43 PM
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I agree (all but the Bar-Sur-Aube I've read in the original language, with translations to help)
23/12/2012 05:16:04 PM
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Since it's a short book I might just buy a paperback and hope Dumbarton Oaks issues a hardcover.
23/12/2012 07:29:52 PM
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It'll be a few months at least before I tackle Mommsen in any language
23/12/2012 07:44:42 PM
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I took a chance and ordered Orlando Furioso a week ago from amazon.it
24/12/2012 02:14:02 AM
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Hopefully it'll be what you want
24/12/2012 04:19:32 AM
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Io sono trasportato di gioia
28/12/2012 12:32:21 AM
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And I just ordered their Tasso.
28/12/2012 01:09:08 AM
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Very strange indeed
28/12/2012 04:46:26 AM
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Excellent!
28/12/2012 04:45:42 AM
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The books are not as rigid as a cardboard-style hardcover, but they aren't very supple.
28/12/2012 05:36:35 AM
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I agree about the Old French and Catalan - it makes sense when you think about it.
25/12/2012 07:18:35 PM
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Having finished re-reading the Pulci, I think that one might interest you as well
25/12/2012 08:59:38 AM
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Saw the title of this and immediately thought: Tite Kubo. haha *NM*
03/01/2013 10:27:22 PM
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