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"Looks like" is this case meaning "explicitly stated to be that way"? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 17/08/2012 11:56:48 AM
We only got the story from the PoV of Ned, who doesn't explicitly judge it one way or another (which right there should be an indication), and from the mouth of Robert, who is hardly in a position to know, or of a character to admit, the truth of the relationship.
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A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 13/08/2012 10:48:37 PM 9061 Views
Fascinating. Legolas - 13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM 2456 Views
Re: Fascinating. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:23:13 AM 2260 Views
Mainly the names. Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:07:21 AM 2196 Views
Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM 2333 Views
Not really. Legolas - 14/08/2012 07:01:36 PM 2430 Views
Shocking Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:49:18 AM 2288 Views
On the Rape issue.... djwilson300 - 14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM 2304 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... dacole - 14/08/2012 02:02:42 AM 2172 Views
Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels, Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM 2323 Views
When does he use rape in an erotic manner? A Deathwatch Guard - 14/08/2012 05:48:59 AM 2177 Views
like all the time. Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:45:42 PM 2267 Views
Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM 2225 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. dacole - 14/08/2012 04:37:17 PM 2219 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:39:31 AM 2317 Views
I for one never saw any of the rapes as erotic imlad - 21/08/2012 05:04:11 PM 2458 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM 2159 Views
How is that a violent rape? At worst it would be statutory rape. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:53:44 AM 2245 Views
The wedding night is statutory. I would describe the later rapes as fairly violent. Camilla - 17/08/2012 12:13:26 PM 2278 Views
That was her only sex scene, until she induces him to have outdoor sex to get pregnant Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:20:09 PM 2268 Views
It is not necessary to provide a scene Camilla - 17/08/2012 10:49:20 PM 2167 Views
I believe that what is happening here is called confirmation bias *NM* Kotagg - 21/08/2012 06:23:38 PM 1214 Views
House Banners/Sigils imlad - 21/08/2012 04:56:07 PM 2227 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin dacole - 14/08/2012 02:08:59 AM 2112 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:25:11 AM 2223 Views
I think you misread one part Dark Knight - 14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM 2381 Views
I think that the Rhaegar and Lyanna stuff does look like rape in the first book Stephen - 14/08/2012 08:10:27 PM 2172 Views
"Looks like" is this case meaning "explicitly stated to be that way"? Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:56:48 AM 2126 Views
Currently kicking myself Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:43:36 AM 2372 Views
Re: Currently kicking myself Stephen - 16/08/2012 10:11:01 AM 2203 Views
what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... temeraire - 15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM 2124 Views
Re: what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... Camilla - 15/08/2012 07:39:24 AM 2355 Views
philippa gregory co-authored a book "the women of the cousins' war" - it was very interesting temeraire - 16/08/2012 07:54:50 PM 2208 Views
Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV? Tom - 16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM 2279 Views
Trollolololololololllll *NM* Kotagg - 16/08/2012 01:02:22 AM 1080 Views
Se noteboard. *NM* Camilla - 16/08/2012 06:29:39 AM 1110 Views
Game, set, and match *NM* Praziquantel - 18/08/2012 03:50:38 PM 1068 Views
I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... lord-of-shadow - 16/08/2012 11:52:40 PM 2089 Views
Re: I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:33:24 AM 2253 Views
I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM 2278 Views
Re: I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:40:12 AM 2167 Views
I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain Cannoli - 17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM 2228 Views
I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent Stephen - 17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM 2083 Views
A perpetrator-less crime then. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM 2220 Views
Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli. Kotagg - 18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM 2079 Views
You are missing the point. Camilla - 18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM 2189 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Werthead - 19/08/2012 01:25:30 PM 2247 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Camilla - 19/08/2012 01:40:11 PM 2208 Views
So, you're saying that Juliet was raped by Romeo??? imlad - 21/08/2012 05:24:56 PM 2276 Views
The later books do add more context and change some of this snoopcester - 19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM 2126 Views
Re: The later books do add more context and change some of this Camilla - 19/08/2012 07:27:59 AM 2141 Views
That makes sense snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:35:36 PM 1904 Views
Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy. Dan - 19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM 1320 Views
Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM* snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM 1149 Views
High blood pressure can kill, I hear. *NM* Camilla - 19/08/2012 03:33:14 PM 1208 Views
Nonsense. nossy - 19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM 1102 Views
Fixed it for you. Dan - 19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM 1202 Views
Oh, but that takes us back to snoop being right, and I'm sorry, but I just cannot abide that. nossy - 19/08/2012 10:56:10 PM 1137 Views
Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM* everynametaken - 20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM 1107 Views
Gosh, this is really turning into something fun. nossy - 20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM 1259 Views
Here I was about to make a "whee misogyny" post. I never get to have fun. *NM* Ghavrel - 20/08/2012 09:09:04 AM 984 Views
Huh. I just came to the odd realization... Legolas - 20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM 1200 Views
Don't lock it! Dan - 21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM 1167 Views
Yes, I'm aware, or I might have locked it already. Legolas - 21/08/2012 06:17:29 PM 1036 Views
I'd ask that you do lock it. Stephen - 21/08/2012 10:00:48 PM 1108 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Legolas - 22/08/2012 06:26:04 PM 1025 Views
I may join you Camilla - 20/08/2012 10:14:50 PM 1181 Views
COME AT ME BRO *NM* Dan - 21/08/2012 05:09:34 AM 1047 Views
The interesting part is... ? - 28/08/2012 01:39:49 AM 2055 Views
That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read random thoughts - 01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM 2150 Views
I forgot that I was supposed to read all threads to watch out for Bad Behaviour. Rebekah - 01/09/2012 11:09:52 PM 2366 Views
i'm rereading the series now and yeah there is a LOT of rape Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:38:27 PM 2740 Views
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